Some help needed 1221 - 1254 gold hyperpyron of John III Doukas Vatatzes

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  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I was hoping to get a little more detailed information about this gold coin.
    medoraman was a huge help to identify the coin and point me in the right direction.

    This is what I came up with based on Chris's information.
    composition: gold
    weight:4.03 grams
    size: approx 25-28mm

    1221 - 1254 gold hyperpyron coin of John III Doukas Vatatzes

    In all the examples I have found, none of them have this "Star" (see image). They either have a dot, multiple dots, or no dot.
    Chris mentioned it could be a control symbol used by the mint.

    Does anyone have insight or the ability to tell me anything more about this coin? More specifically the star?

    Thank you for any information.
    -greg
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  3. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    The star in this case is what is known as a "siglon," an internal mint control symbol. Numismatists have not yet deciphered the specific purpose or arrangement of these symbols.

    Here is a similar specimen with a star: http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=207310
     
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  4. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Perfect, thank you!
     
  5. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer


    When youre done send that bad boy my way G......gotta love ancient/ really really old gold. I sure do!
     
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  6. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Lol you got it trey! bullion on it's way.
     
  7. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Wow awesome coin gbroke, i've wanted one for some time, well i just bought 2..i hope you don't mine, i'm posting this one...
    Micheal Vll ...1071- 1078...AD..
    Ob. Christ facing, holding 4 gosples..
    AV Histamenon Nomisma..
    Seyphate...
    Mint..Constantinople
    29mm x 4.36 g.

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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice ashtrays guys!
     
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  9. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I don't mind at all. I've learned more about ancients today than I have ever knew. That's a beautiful coin.

    Lol John. I will give this one to my neice to use as a little bowl for her doll house formal dining room.
     
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