Maria Anna Avgvsta Ferdinandi no idea what this is-please help

Discussion in 'World & Ancient Coins' started by TheNoost, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Obv-Maria Anna Avgvsta Ferdinandi I Imp ET Regis
    Rev-ET Altera Mihi Patria Coron Pragae Menge Sept MDCCCXXXVI
    Weight approx 29 g
    45mm wide and 3mm thick

    What is it, what is it made of and any other info is appreciated.
    It was glued inside this metal collar, but I pushed it out. Would acetone damage the medal(there is glue on it that held it in place)?
    Thanks 4 your help.

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Here ya go - Medal - scroll down a bit.
  4. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I think it a 1836 Prague coronation medal of Ferdinand I and Maria Anna Augusta
  5. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    In comparing pics, looks like mine is a fake. Crown is different and points 2 a letter instead of the dot, hair, earring and necklace is different etc. Unless the one sold was a fake and mine is real:mouth:, wishful thinking.Thanks for the help and any other info is appreciated. Here is an ebay link to exactly what I have http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290111736335
  6. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I think the one sold at the link GD gave you is a replica. It looks like other replicas I have seen for sale, here is a genuine example:

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    The one GD linked to look like the reproduction being sold here IMO:

    http://www.austriancoins.com/medalsassorted.html

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    although its a small pic...it looks more like the fake then the authentic example:

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    IMO, your looks like a casting of an original and not a reproduction.
  7. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    NowI am really confused. What is the difference between a casting and a reproduction? There is no reeded edge and the fields are rough and bumpy if that helps. Also, the lettering at the bottom of the rev gets closer to the pillow tassles than the ones pictured and does not say germany before ET Altera.
  8. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    The bottom two I posted, and I could be wrong, but they appear NOT to be cast from an original...your looks soft, loss of sharpness, rough and bumpy, an imperfect image of the original features, as if its a cast of a cast of a cast (common for these).

    The middle one is one I know to be a reproduction, by that I meant to say I think someone reproduced it not by casting it directly from an original but by remaking it as closely as possible. These are very common.

    An original would be roughly 47 mm and almost 63 g. A cast of an original would be about the same size but the weight would vary. The reproductions, not cast from an original are often larger in size. Both are blackish bronze, or blackened bronze coated base metal. The two I posted above are blackened, one was cleaned. The original, as you can see, is not. They and many other coins and medal reproductions are used in things like this...good thing they use a reproduction. I have a bowl that has a very rare coin in it, its a fake but its still a cool little thing I got for cheap. It would be a shame to mess up such a lovely medal.
  9. coin hoarder

    coin hoarder New Member

    Mine looks exactly like the bottom, obverse view, that Drussus posted, but like "The Noost", mine does not have the "Germany" on the reverse. Mine measures 45mm but weighs only 38.06 grams. I never thought it to be authentic, but for some reason I've always held on to it. Mine was also in a "collar" of sorts that was hallmarked "Italy".
    Peace,
    CH
  10. melloddc

    melloddc New Member

    bowl55.jpg bowl1.jpg Hello. i also have a Maria Anna Avgvsta Ferdinandi coronation souvenir bowl. if anyone has ever seen such bowlus.jpg an item or has an idea of asking price your input would be appreciated. THe bowl is a larger silver metal one with the coin on the bottom .
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  11. melloddc

    melloddc New Member

    hello. the bowl above is a souvenir coronation bowl and the pictures ended up around the question. i am curious to know if anyone has ever seen one like it and what a reasonable price would be to ask. thanks
  12. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Jezzzz she was a dog. I wonder what her dowery was ????
  13. Mark14

    Mark14 Star Wide Receiver

    probably two chickens, a bag of rye, and a jar of pickled pigs feet
  14. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango Supporter

    I disagree Ripley; I think she's beautiful.

    :(
    Lucy
  15. ggsfsd

    ggsfsd New Member

    I have this bowl, too. It is engraved REVERE inside the bowl. Have no idea what it is. Did you ever find anything out about it?
  16. ggsfsd

    ggsfsd New Member

    I have this bowl, too. REVERE engraved inside. Did you ever find more information about it?
  17. ccg1

    ccg1 New Member

    These steel bowls with copies of medals were made c. 1960s or so. Sometimes you'll find them on Ebay with the original packaging.

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