Guess the grade: GOLD

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  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Hey gang!

    These 3 coins are in freshly made no problem PCGS holders. Care to guess the grades?

    First up 1878 $3 Gold
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    Second 1854 Type II Gold Dollar
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    Lastly 1887 $3 Gold
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    MS63 / MS64 / MS62
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    No one like to grade gold?

    I guess 58, 64, 55
    I will admit I cannot tell if that is the strike or wear on those coins.
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Interesting grades. I want to say 63, 62 and 64. I do not know a whole lot about gold, but that won't keep me from taking a swag at it.
     
  6. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Nice coins.
    I think MS 64, MS63 and MS64PL.
     
  7. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No idea what PCGS said, but based on the pics I would say - in order, 55, 55, 58.

    Could I change my mind if I saw the coins in hand ? Maybe.
     
  9. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

  10. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    C'mon Doug, the game is not what is your opinion, if we all did that, none of us would be wrong. The game is what grade did PCGS assign to them :) :) :)
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well that may be THE game. But MY game is to try help others learn how to grade for themselves. Because if they don't, then they will never know if what they are buying has been graded correctly or not ;)
     
  12. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Point taken, BUT you can do both :D
     
  13. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    I'm in the AU camp on these but I was at 58,50,53 but they could just as well be 63,60,62 as images don't show rub that well some times and catching luster is hit and miss.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Doug was neither the first nor the last to say those coins have wear.
     
  15. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    ??? Huh, Doug clearly said he has no idea was PCGS said and he was representing his own opinion, which he later explained was to educate folks on grading. There is no disagreement here. Doug is interpreting the "soft spots" as wear, which may or may not be how PCGS views it, we will see.
     
  16. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    still playing games at your age grandpa? :D

    BTW your grading is no longer market acceptable :D

    Standards of PCGS and NGC have been rising year over year but yours have remained the same. When you are ready to call a 62 coin a 64 come back and we will play another round of guess the grade :D
     
  17. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    why not do a complete analysis like old times with circles and everything. by just giving out grades how will most folks learn why pcgs screwed up if they did :D
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    In some cases yes, in others no. But if you look closely at all 3 of the coins you will find contact marks galore, light scratches, wear in the fields, etc. In other words, all of the things you find on circulated coins.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Why not ? Because I did it for 15 years, few if any ever listened, so why continue ? Those who are willing to listen and want to learn usually contact me privately to talk about it. And for anyone that shows that much interest, I've got all the time in the world to talk to them, and am more than willing to do so.

    That's why not ;)
     
  20. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Au63, Au63, Au63....
     
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  21. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

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