CIRELAW

Can a normal human being tell the difference between a MS 69 and MS 70 on their multible 2009 Ultra High Releif Double Eagle Gold Coin?

green18

It's extemely difficult to tell the difference between a '69 and a '70. If you can live without all the '70 hype you can save quite a few bucks by purchasing a '69. 'specially when it comes to modern bullion.....

I'll also add my opinion that it's really not worth it to purchase modern bullion items in slabs as I feel the cost is prohibative. Purchasing directly from the mint (in most cases) will net you a '69 or '70.

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CIRELAW

First, Thank You for your input. One does look better, although I think I'm loosing my mind. Debbie my wife came with the opposite choice. Go Figure!!

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CIRELAW

Coin Collecting 102. What are the truth or myths about using one service or another. Is one service known as being more lax with one type of coin or another? Since I'm not buying anymore Ultras, should I roll the dice and submit what I feel the sharpest for grading. Ps, I have scored the beaches, attempting to collect Spanish Treasure on our coast, of Ft Pierce and only came accross this from one of Mels divers for defending him in a DUI. I got the better end of the deal!

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CIRELAW

I need some advice, I want To acquire a 2006 Silver anniversary Dollar set in grade MS '70' The price for a 3 set run all over the place yet individual coins are just as confusing. Should I fork out for a set now or wait till each particular component come down if ever? Have You noticed any Holiday bargains, Tks Eric

andrew289

That set will always warm my heart. 2006 was a cash cow. I flipped about 100 of those sets raw. It was a feeding frenzy. I'm not a modern slabber or a 70 chaser so I can't offer an opinion on when/how to buy. I think they have done settled but I haven't been keeping track.

I did load up on an NGC box (20 coins) of PF70 Reverse proofs on a hunch. It's just a beautiful coin. I haven't been a buyer in months, I'm a seller now so I haven't been looking for bargains.

PS. I took a look on ebay and it looks like a 70 set is hovering around $1,000. Hard to believe the set issued for $100 and at the height of the frenzy, raw sets were selling for $500-$700. Those were the days.

CIRELAW

Andrew, You are a true Romantic, like I! I've asked myself why I collect and I beleive You like myself buy for the artistic historical touch and profit a secondary treat! I'm not denying any touch of avaristic tendencies. Then you were correct also with the Ultras. They are beautiful. Thank You for letting me reflect on those things in life that have multible returns. These sets are beautiful and I'll save up 2 months for the finest and PRETTIEST! Thank You for your sincerity~

green18

My feeling....buy a raw set. Forget the '70 "hype". Just MHO....

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CIRELAW

Your advice well take. Maybe then a nice Buffelo as soon as their available. Make sence? ps, I realy appreciate all this direction. I don't know how many chances I have left! PS Grumman?

green18

No...Lockheed.....

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CIRELAW

Heres one, Would you pay the extra price to purchase a guarenteed slated Buffalo, ms70 from a third party, or take your chances and hope you wind up with one Gem 70 for your collection. tks Paranoid Eric, Esq.

midas1

I bought a American Gold Buffalo (AGB) coin from the mint the first day they went on sale and I bought a slabbed MS70 first strike uncirculated AGB.
The mint AGB cost I think $1,364.95 and the MS70 cost $1,320.00. The Mint coin has more eye appeal in my opinion. I should've bought two mint AGB coins. You need to see some Buffalo cameo coins or American Eagle cameo coins as they're out of this world. You should Goggle for coin shows in your area you'll be amazed at what you see at these shows. You can learn a lot. I don't know enough to buy any expensive coins at shows. I buy those from the Mint, APMEX or Monaco.

Also, consider Mexican Libertad coins, EU/France The Sower coins and British Britannia coins. All are available in gold and all are beautiful.

Good Luck

CIRELAW

Thank You for your opinion. Do you think that maybe the Mint packenging has something to do with it. Our mint has taken presentation to a new level. I have decided that I will follow your lead and go for both. The slabbed would be much easier to turn over if thing get tough. Thank You again and I wish You continued success in you adventures. Thanks for the APMEX turn one. Great prices and Great selection!!!

midas1

The proof coin without the packaging looks better then the MS70 coin. I don't think the MS70 will carry the premium that a Mint proof w/ box will command. At the Whitman Show in Baltimore today, from some dealers, the 2009 MS70 eaRLy release was selling for about $100.00 less then I paid for it.

After reading a lot of threads on this forum I changed my focus from investing in coins to enjoying the coins and investments as the secondary goal.

green18

Pure gold guys. these things stike up really well. You're almost guaranteed a '69 or a '70 so why pay a slab premium?

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