Unusual Mason Penny

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ziggy9, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    He's an unusual mason Item. Its an encased cent. it measures approx. 2" across and is 1/8" thick.

    Richard
     

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  3. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Cool! Good looking '23, Maybe saved from circulation being encased. Wonder how damaged the reverse happens to be...

    Would you mind posting this in the thread at the link below also? thank you.

    http://www.cointalk.com/forum/t58694-3/
     
  4. krispy

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  5. vipergts2

    vipergts2 Jester in hobby of kings

    That is really cool. I am intrigued by all things Masonic. :thumb:
     
  6. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Adds a neat layer of history to the coin and traces this to a point / place in time.
     
  7. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Restamped Masonic Liberty Seated


    While rooting around in our old family stuff I found this 1853 Liberty Seated....with a twist.

    When I took it to the local coin shop got the usual no interest,
    "Some re-stamped thing just worth bullion".

    Gramps was like a 32nd level Mason and I was wondering if this might be from that? Any Ideas? Any Value other than it being a neat old coin made into a token.....and of course it being Gramps, long gone, so it's priceless to me.


     

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  8. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    The 1923 cent is signicant in that Arthur Muriph was born in 1923. I found that he graduated from MIT in 1948 after serving in WWII. He is still alive and is 86 years old.
    Just about the only thing I haven't found out is where he currently lives.

    Richard
     
  9. krispy

    krispy krispy


    Wow!
     
  10. krispy

    krispy krispy



    Intriguing piece. Not necessarily Masonic upon immediate inspection to me. A very quick glossary Google search of that name up top "A. J. Kroesing" turned up a silversmith database of makers marks:

    Harting & Kroesing
    Lexington, KY 1867-c.1872 William Harting and A.J. Kroesing.

    http://sterlingflatwarefashions.com/Silversmiths/SilversmithsH3.html


    The flanking Latin translation:

    VERITAS PRAEVALEBIT = Truth will prevail.
     
  11. DoK U Mint

    DoK U Mint In Odd we Trust

    Muchly appreciated. I Thought the bottom line might be LEX,KY.
     
  12. kneil3

    kneil3 Senior Member

    This thread made me go back and look at a mason penny I have but don't have any knowledge about. It was my grandfathers, its a 1974 silver penny. I'm sure its dipped not anything rare.

    It has a mason stamp like the one I included in the pic attached. The pic attached is just a reference its the only one that I have found that looks the stamp on my coin. the little symbol with a "g" and on the reverse there is a little "m" on the other side.
     

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  13. krispy

    krispy krispy

    kneil3
    Thank you for adding this to the thread! If you have a pic of the reverse, please post this as well. You know you mentioned '74 silver but this looks like a 1945 (S-mint mark?) and brassy-looking...

    Speculating that the "G" can mean Grand and the "M" Mason. Anyone know?
     
  14. kneil3

    kneil3 Senior Member

    unfortunatley my camera is not working. that pic was not of the coin I have but of one with a similar punch stamp that I found on th einternet. I just put that one up as a reference so there could be an idea of what mine looks like. the one I have is a silver 74 penny not that copper 45. thanks
     
  15. krispy

    krispy krispy

    Gottcha! Well, if you get your camera working and a can make some more photos (including the reverse) please post them here. It would be great to see that 'silver' one and would help build a list of images of these nifty counter-stamped Masonic coins. Thanks again.
     
  16. kneil3

    kneil3 Senior Member

    here is the best I can do with my regular old camera couldn't get a reverse shot.
     

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  17. krispy

    krispy krispy

    I get the idea.

    Is this on a steel '43 Lincoln cent with Masonic counter-stamped design.

    If you get a better close up you can post it later. Thanks.
     
  18. harkenkc

    harkenkc New Member

    I have a few Cent Pieces with Masonic stamps on them. There are lots of reasons for it within different lodges. I am a Master Mason and a Shriner so I kind of see the cool side of the coin plus collecting old Masonic Stuff. I try to find any old Masonic Stuff like that and buy it just for my personal Collection not really for the coin values.

    SO if anyone comes by some items like that please Keep me in mind.

    Tim
     
  19. cwtokenman

    cwtokenman Coin Hoarder

    This item is definitely tied to the Masonic organization. The keystone is their most commonly used symbol on their Chapter Pennies, and the letters H.T.W.S.S.T.K.S. are supposed to represent the "mark" of the Ancient Grand Master. The letters stand for "Hiram Tyrian (The) Widow's Son Sendeth To King Solomon". Hiram was a key player in Solomon's First Temple.

    This is also worth considerably more than bullion. The engraving is fairly well done with added pictorials. There are no pricing guides for these, but my opinion is that if this piece were offered on ebay, it would bring at least $30, but more likely in the $50 ballpark. But you are correct that as a family heirloom it is priceless.
     
  20. kneil3

    kneil3 Senior Member

    well

    tried the best I could for a reverse. at least you can get an idea of how the back is caved or punched in
     

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  21. kneil3

    kneil3 Senior Member

    no its on what must be a dipped 1974 copper penny. its not a 1943 steel
     
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