Does this 1912 coin have a mintmark?

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I see a shadow that appears to be an "S", but I believe that's all it is. Sorry.

 

No, I don't see one.

 

No, your seeing things

 

Just checking.

 

Please send me your Ebay seller ID in a PM.

 

Why? It is obviously not a 1912S so the item was listed correctly. I asked at two forums as well to.

 

Collect look in the auction sub section its in there.

 

if you sell something on ebay and then ask someone's opinion here why would you tell us your intentions when they are not honorable?i can remember selling a 26s penny and the guy pointed out it was not the one in the picture and he was correct as i had several;so i sent him the correct one told him i was sorry and told him to keep the other one.

 

I am not going to go into this about "honorable" intentions and not to pretend that I am some saint. I am honest at least that I would consider trying to weasel out. I think anyone who even thought they mistakenly sold a key or semi-key coin on Ebay for 99 cents with free shipping would have reservations. Mistakes happen and I know that there are those that wait in the wings waiting for them to happen. It wasn't what I first feared which is all that probably was so it no longer matters what my options are. I could just send it and take the hit and feel cheated or refund their money and send a 1912 which was my intentions. Of course we are talking about two separate things, a wheat cent worth $2.13 in VG condition and a coin worth $156 dollars in VG condition. Weird how Numismedia has such a different price for that wheat penny than Redbook which is $10. I just shipped an 1897 VG nickel for $1.79 which is listed for $5 and I don't care since I seemed to get a lot of those.

 

Yes, I am seeing things so this thread is no longer relevant. Maybe that smudge was a glued on mintmark or just a smudge. I don't know why I thought I just sold a 1912s for 99 cents with free shipping. At least I am honest, I would not act like I am so noble that I wouldn't think about trying to weasle out if I cheated myself by listing a 1912 V Nickel when it was a 1912s.

 

So what?? You openly admitted that were this coin an S, you would not ship and instead would lie to the buyer. Not only that but would ship them a coin different than the one listed. Just because it turns out that you were not picked, this does not make everything okay.

So had you overlooked an S, the guy observant enough to notice would have cheated you? Seriously? Interesting that until called out, you made no mention of refunding their money. Only lying and swapping out coins. Had you done this, I hope you know a well deserved neg would likely have been coming your way.

Take this as you will, Buddy, but it is not meant to be offensive. I understand that taking a hit is not fun, but sometimes it is better to do the right thing than to save a few bucks. This was a week-long listing, so you had plenty of time to discover any mistake. Had you not done so, it rightly should be your loss and his gain.

 

So you openly admit that you'd take advantage of a listing error or grossly underpay an uninformed seller? Seems a bit hypocritical...

Perhaps the right thing to do in a situation like this is for the knowledgeable party to inform the other as to the true value of the coin and renegotiate to reach an equitable deal for both buyer and seller.

 

I would not have just swapped out a different coin, I would contact the seller expressing my mistake since my listing is for a 1912 V Nickel. I would actually call Ebay and tell them about my mistake and ask them what they would advise doing since my listing is for a 1912 V nickel not a 1912s V nickel. I do realize simply swapping out the coin would not be the right thing to do. One option would be to refund the seller and send them a better 1912 for free. I do think the best option would be to contact Ebay and have them advise me what to do about the mistake. This thread is obviously become hypothetical since this is not a 1912s which I didn't think from the get go. I have 1912ds and the mintmark is quite obvious. I think the moral of the thread is make absolutely sure about what you are listing so that you can list them correctly so both the seller and the buyer can feel they got a good deal. This is one of my experimental auctions and considering starting the auction at 5 cents with free shipping just to see where it would go instead of listing for the bare minimal I will accept. But yes, this is over although I was not picked, I just put you back on ignore.

 

This is topic has come up before on this forum, I recall someone who mistakenly listed these really nice Morgans for a ridiculously low price and the member here was trying to force them to sell it to them. People do make errors on Ebay and I read about them all the time. I see this on American Pickers and Pawn Stars though where the sellers offer was way to low and the pickers or pawn broker offers them more. I know some here would say "you should know your stuff now eat your mistake". It is best in this type of situation is to consult with Ebay support and find out what to do. I don't care if someone wants to put me on there blocked seller list, I am OK with that. I pay those fees to have access millions of buyers, not a few on a message board. As I mentioned I would
"say I made a mistake" so of course contact would be required. Yes, everything is OK since I wasn't picked or grossly underpaid. Kind of like saying, newbies should do the right thing when they make a mistake and allow me to take advantage them and force me to give me their coins for nothing.

 

Hypocritical? No its not, and welcome to the real world. Do you understand the concept of cherrypicking? Be it varieties, under graded coins, mislabeled coins, whatever, it is part of the game so anyone wishing to play dealer (or ebay coin seller) needs to accept this reality. Let me give you an example: some months back I stopped at a local B&M while killing time and noticed a 1945-P 5C TDR in a low value miscellaneous book. The coin was in a flip labeled by the man's long-deceased father, and surely had been looked at by hundreds of customers over the years. I ended up paying $5 for a coin that is worth substantially more, but I guess I should have pointed out his (and everyone else's) oversight or lack of knowledge instead of using my experience for my benefit, right? Nonsense. When a coin is offered in a retail or auction setting, picking is fair game and it is as simple as that.

The OP's coin was offered in a seven day auction, so it was not like this was a BIN with an obviously wrong buy price listed and was snapped up before the mistake was noticed. Also, and as for taking advantage of a listing error, IMO there is a big difference between someone who obvious does not handle coins and someone (such as the OP) who offers only coins. I would not take advantage of anyone ill informed who came to me to sell, but when someone is playing dealer, it is a whole different ballgame. Maybe you should put a little more thought into this before making such assumptions.

 

My signature line pretty well sums up my feelings on this matter.

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There is a different between cherry picking and grossly taking advantage of someone new. Getting a $50 coin for $20 is cherry picking. Demanding someone new sell you a key date for .99 cents who listed it in error is not cherry picking, that is just grossly taking advantage of someone new's error. Would you also like my money and my leg in restitution for my error? If you consider this the real world, your world is unethical and you have no right to state what is ethical or not.

 

I am not going to even respond to this, I will just put you back on ignore. You are obviously just looking now to instigate something. It is not your concern what I am "playing" nor is it what I do. If I made an error in my listing, I would consult with Ebay on how to handle it, not you since I can't end my auctions early till I get a bid and it is before 24 hours. I say that you are purposely trying to instigate because as you stated "this is not over since you were not picked". You are obviously trying to cause trouble over something that didn't even happen and is strictly hypothetical. I actually asked this very same question before I even listed the coin that is why I listed it because I already had a picture, don't even ask me why I thought the same thing again if there was a mintmark. Here is the link:
http://www.cointalk.com/t217846/