Hello all! Just wondering if you would mind giving me an approximate grade on this little beauty! Edge Lettering reads: ** FERT ** FERT * (sunglasses symbol?) * FERT Is this the first or second variety? (I believe the second is the more valuable, so please tailor your responses toward Option #2) Thank you!
Adding photos of the edge lettering Just wanted to add two photos of the edge lettering (to help diagnose variety...)
For me is VF+, and it seems genuine, but I'm not very expert in Italian modern coins, I collect expecially paper money (Italy and world), US coins and ancient Roman coins. If you want, I can show your coin in the Italian forum www.lamoneta.it, the greatest numismatic forum in Italy, with many people very, very expert in coins of King Vittorio Emanuele III. You may have an opinion about the authenticity, and real market value today (the valuation I gave in the other thread is by a catalog of two years ago, 2010). You've already said that the weight is right (10 grams), please control also diameter (correct 27 mm.) petronius
I would stretch for low XF. It could be just because I love these coins. Was the reverse an aspect of Mussolini's trying to bring back the glory of Rome? I ask since I know that was a theme of his, and the chariot was probably the most common reverse on Roman Republican coins.
Yes..and no A similar design was used also on coins struck before fascism, as 5 lire 1914 but since 1923 were added fascist symbols, derived from ancient Rome, like the fasces on 10 Lire coin. petronius :smile
Thanks Petronius, very helpful. I admit that I know I own at least one of these, but cannot remember which. I sure hope its the pre-fascist one, as its a much better design, (as well as being non-fascist). I never hold politics against a coin, but if given a preference avoid terrorist regime coinage. I tell you what, modern day Italy has given the world some truly gorgeous coins. To my eye, that 1914 is about as gorgeous as a coin can get.
Yeah, me too think that 5 Lire 1914 is the most beautiful coin of Vittorio Emanuele III, but...there is a slight problem A coin in that grade requires about $ 20,000...of course, that coin is not mine, it's only a web photo petronius :smile
Thank you, Petronius...I would appreciate it if you asked your Italian Coin friends for their opinions. BTW - thanks to all who have posted today (been out looking for props for my girlfriend at antique malls and haven't been able to reply.) I'm considering whether this coin is worth sending in to NGC to get graded - have a sneaking suspicion it's been cleaned at some point...but I think it would otherwise be worth the $19 fee. Anyone want to convince me for/against? I have a couple other nicer foreign coins I could send with it to meet the 5 coin minimum...
The coins in this thread is the reason why I love modern italian coins. They have some of the best looking & attractive designs. Definitely 2 types I would like to add in my collecting future.
Well, this is the thread http://www.lamoneta.it/topic/91172-10-lire-1928-due-rosette/ You can read with Google translator, in any case I will translate opinions for you. If you would to join the thread, you can sign in and write English, no problem for us. petronius
The coin is GOOD :thumb: Some guys who replied are the leading experts, and their opinion makes it sure. The grade for them is VF or a bit better, now I asked for a real market value. petronius
The estimated value is € 300 ($ 375-380) but...in Italy. We don't know what could be the value of Italian coins in American numismatic market. My friend, Paolino67, says: Translation: "For a 2 rosettes in VF I think € 300 is achievable in case of sale (of course, on the Italian market), having conservations a range very large because the VFs are not all equal, and great influence has the visibility of rosettes, often precarious...This is a nice VF with two rosettes and fully visible, so I think that the price quoted is realistic." A great bargain, congratulations :thumb: petronius :smile
Give em' time to see the post. I miss seeing many threads at CT for many reasons. #1 Here is a collage depicting the two 10 Lire coins recently posted. I've been studying the images to see if either is fake or real. CLICK THE IMAGE TO ENLARGE IT & LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. #2 I posted an 1859 Italy 5 Centesimo coin on this other thread. I hope that our Italy coin experts like Petronius will find the thread: http://www.cointalk.com/t165399-62/
Is there something you see that I don't? Mine just looks more worn (and the photo is taken from straight on, I believe the one on the right was taken from the right at an angle...)
I give it an XF-40. Italian coins are very aesthetic pieces during this era. Beautiful designs! Nice coin.
Well, in any case, in about a month or so we should know what NGC thinks. Sent it in a batch with my best foreign (plus a 1915 Canadian quarter in XF/AU that the LCS wanted to send in for grading.) It was about time for me to send that stuff in...
I see nothing in the photos that is indicative of fake manufacture. However, I do not know the counterfeit diagnostics for this 10 Lire coin. That is why I made & posted the collage photo for others to view. Here is a fake I posted on an old thread: http://www.cointalk.com/t55005/
By this image, it's not possible to have a sure opinion, but if the weight is correct (10 grams, or 0.2684 oz.) and the edge is like the other, with FERT and rosettes, I think it can be genuine. But your coin is in a lower grade, less than VF, and 1927 is more common than 1928. And, for 1927, the rarest is the coin with ONE rosette, not two...but the difference in value, in this grade, is small. I think value is from € 15 (two rosettes) to € 25 (one rosette)...$ 20-30. Have a reply. petronius :smile
