Your Opinion on ANACS

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by aardgarb, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. aardgarb

    aardgarb New Member

    Anyone have problem with ANACs
    I sent a coin in to have regraded with instructions not to grade lower than was sent.
    I sent NTC graded Franklin Half 1948-D , MS-66-FBL and ANACS sent back in there new
    Holder as MS-65-FBL; they admit the error and offered me a free coin grading, A as in 1, coin grading.
    Differance in coin cat. value is about $900.
    Am I getting the shaft or am I just being overlly critical
    Would welcome your opinion.
    Thanks
    aardgarb
     
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  3. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Erm. Firstly if it's a NTC graded slab, well duh - MOST of the time, you would expect major slabbing companies to grade them lower!

    WHY? Because the other slabbing companies would try to grade them at higher grading points to deceive collectors.
     
  4. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Well number one the question is---what list states the $900 price jump??....the grading company is going to use either the Gray Sheet or ended online auctions
    I would suggest calling them again and asking for the PR man....and telling him your problem and asking what he will do to fix it.

    Speedy
     
  5. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    here is my opinion of anacs:
    http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=18401&page=3

    s far so good, i would call them over their mistake.
    I would also agree that even though NTC graded the coin a 66FBL, you would be hard pressed to find anyone that would actually pay 66 money for it.
    If it was in a PCGS or NGC holder as a 66 and they made the same mistake, that's a different story.
     
  6. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

  7. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    I haven't read anything about "accidents" in any of the grading companies policy's, this seems like an unusual case. Call them and complain, ANACS is working hard to improve its public image. If they don't listen to you send a letter to coin world voicing what happened. nothing like bad publicity to get traction.
     
  8. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    This same thing happened to one of my relatives, except it was in an PCI slab. We both felt the grade was right. He sent it to one of the leading TPG's, they removed it from the holder, despite the minimum cross grade being listed, and he got a refund in the fair market difference.
     
  9. EdsCoin

    EdsCoin Senior Member

    I would think an ANACS 1948 D MS 65 fbl would bring more money than a NTC 66 fbl any day.
    At least I would pay more.
    However I see your point if you requsted not to grade lower than it was graded.
     
  10. CoinDude08

    CoinDude08 New Member

    This is the first time Ive ever heard of anyone having a problem with ANACS, from the people around here I hear that ANACS is probably one of the easier companies to work with as far as that goes. Im slightly confused as to how you can give them instructions to not grade a coin lower than something, doesnt that defeat the purpose of asking their opinion on the grade?
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    When sending in a coin that is already slabbed you have the option of requesting that it not be cracked out and re-slabbed if the new grade will be lower than the grade on the present slab.

    A submitter has many options when sending in coins, even raw coins. You can stipulate for example that only coins grading MS65 or higher be slabbed - all of the other coins will be returned to you unslabbed.
     
  12. CoinDude08

    CoinDude08 New Member

    Cool, I didnt know that.
     
  13. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector


    I might add that whatever option you request you still have to pay the grading fees !!!
     
  14. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    I never understood why someone would put a minimum grade on a raw coin, and ge the coin back not in a slab. your still paying for it.
    My only guess is its for people who keep sending a coin in until it hits the grade they want (if the spread is huge between grades)

    give them a call tomorrow, and don;t take n for an answer. let us know what happens!
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    It's easy to understand. They know that if they submit the coin at a minimum grade and they get lucky, then they can sell the coin easily and for a premium. But they also know that if the coin does not receive that minimum grade that it will be easier to sell and for more money raw than if it were slabbed at the lower grade. That is because they know the next potential buyer of that coin will likely see the same thing they did when they submitted the coin originally. Thus they will want to buy the coin and submit it themselves.
     
  16. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    :thumb:

    aardgarb,
    Here are the most similar auction results I could find:

    1948 D ANACS MS65 FBL - $77
    http://cgi.ebay.com/1948-D-Franklin...ryZ11973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    1948 D NTC MS66 FBL- $36
    http://cgi.ebay.com/1948-D-NTC-MS-6...ryZ11973QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    As you can see, a 1948 D ANACS 65 FBL will realize more than an NTC 66 FBL any day of the week. Did you get the shaft? I'd say no.
     
  17. ranchhand

    ranchhand Coin Hoarder

    so where did the $900 price difference come from if the going rate is $77?
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    That's exactly what Speedy wanted to know. Care to take odds it's from the PCGS price guide ?? :secret:
     
  19. aardgarb

    aardgarb New Member

    That's where I got my pricing... PCGS Franklin Half, 1948-D as MS-65-FBL, is at $165
    Franklin Half, 1948-D as MS-66-FBL, is at $1100
    I know that catalogue prices are generally not what you would expect to sell your coins for, but the
    pricing should reflect the values relative to grade.
    Are the PCGS prices off base?
    Thanks
    G.N. Ward
     
  20. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Yes and no. A properly graded 1948 D MS-66 FBL will realize around $1000, but properly graded 1948 D MS-65 FBL's sell in the $80-$90 range. The PCGS guide is so unreliable your best bet for determining value in the future is to use the Heritage archives.
     
  21. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Just what I thought---PCGS price guide is a hyped up guide---I wouldn't go by it at all...if that is what you were going by I would take the free grading that ANACS offered and RUN!

    Speedy
     
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