Your favorite republican design

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  1. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Coins from the Roman Republic are wonderful. Each of them tell a story about the city, an event in the city, an event concerning a family of the city, etc.
    As being the moneyer for a year often was the start of a political career, many moneyers chose to have a theme involving the greatness of their family on the coins. That is one of the reasons there are so many different and interesting designs.
    As I went through my collection of Republican coins today, taking photos, I was struck by one coin in particular, this one:

    Piso Frugi.jpg

    C. Piso L.f. Frugi Denarius (AR; 18 mm; 3.89g; 7h) 67 bc. Head of Apollo to right, hair bound with fillet; behind, symbol, lituus, decorated with feathers (?). Rev. Horseman galloping to right, below, C PISO L F FRV

    This is a beautiful coin design. Simple, but this makes the main design come out. The whole flan has not been exploited for texts and symbols like many others from the era. Just a young Apollo, and a young rider on reverse. Very high relief for a Roman coin, almost like a Greek coin. The reverse commemorates a sporting event for the youth of Rome, not a war. Among many great coins from the Roman Republic, I find this the most beautiful in my collection. What about you? What is your favorite coin design from the Roman Republic?
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Here is my favourite.

    L Papius Denarius Serratus
    Obv:– Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin tied under chin. Behind head, Dolphin wrapped around anchor.
    Rev:– Gryphon running right; in ex., L. PAPI.; in field, Hippocamp
    Minted in Rome from . B.C. 79.
    Reference(s) – RSC Papia 1. RRC 384/1. RCTV 311.
    Symbol variety – RRC -. Babelon -. BMCRR -.

    A previously unknown symbol pair and the only known example

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  4. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    That’s a very nice gryphon.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Both coins posted are truly amazing coins @svessien and @maridvnvm
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo r., behind, point control, front, check letter
    REVERSE: Horseman galloping towards r., holding a palm branch, above, symbol, and below Piso Frvgi / check letter
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    4.0g, 18mm
    Cr340/1, Sydenham 670d. bb/Calpurnia 11
    Ex Timeline Originals
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI 2.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO FRUGI ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Laureate head of Apollo right, number LV behind
    REVERSE: Horseman galloping right, holding palm L PISO FRVGI below, ROMA monogram, number LXXII above
    Struck at Rome 90 BC
    3.75g, 18.4mm
    Cr340/1, Calpurnia 12

    And another type from the same moneyer a few years earlier
    L CALPURNIUS PISO 3a.jpg
    L CALPURNIUS PISO CAESONINUS & Q SERVILIUS CAEPIO ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS CALPURNIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Saturn facing right, harpa and legend PISO behind, CAEPIO and symbol below, Q below chin
    REVERSE: AD FRV EMV EX SC, the two quaestors seated left between 2 grain ears
    Struck at Rome 100 BC
    3.6g, 20mm
    Crawford 330/1a; Syd 6031
     
  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I enjoy collecting Roman Republic coins. I have MANY favorites. Here is one:

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    Roman Republic
    Anon Ca 240 BCE
    AR Heavy Quinarius / Drachm
    16mm 3.0g
    Rome
    Helmet Hd Mars r -
    Horse’s hd - sickle
    Craw 25-2 Syd 25 RSC 34a R
     
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  7. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I found it too difficult to stop at just one though (I have more than 25!) .....

    Here are two more as a sample

    L Papius Denarius Serratus

    Obv:– Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin tied under chin. Behind head, Shoe.
    Rev:– Gryphon running right; in ex., L. PAPI.; in field, Sandal
    Minted in Rome from . B.C. 79.
    Reference(s) – RSC Papia 1. RRC 384/1. RCTV 311.
    Symbol variety – RRC -. Babelon -. BMCRR -.
    3.78g. 19.71 mm. 180 degrees.

    An unpublished symbol pair with five examples currently known. This is likely the best of the five examples. (Richard Schaefer)

    [​IMG]

    Obv:– Head of Juno Sospita right, wearing goat skin tied under chin. Behind head, owl
    Rev:– Gryphon running right; in ex., L. PAPI.; in field, crow with open wings or eagle
    Minted in Rome from . B.C. 79.
    Reference(s) – RSC Papia 1. RRC 384/1. RCTV 311.
    Symbol variety – RRC 76. Babelon 76. BMCRR 12.

    Symbols of Athena

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  8. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I also have the Piso/Capito coin, Bing. That one sticks out from the rest too, with the round, porcupine-like head of Saturn.
    Looks like I have to look for a Papius too. With a nice gryphon.

    Piso C.jpg
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Cr287s1SR164n95101.jpg
    Anonymous. 115 or 114 BC. 20 mm. 3.92 grams.
    No distracting reverse lettering.
    Beautifully composed with Roma seated on a stack of shields and a helmet, the wolf and twins, and birds flying. The centering is very important for the symmetry of the design, and remarkably, most of these are well-centered.

    Most Republican designs are far less artistic than the best Greek designs, but this one comes with one of the better Republican reverse dies.

    Crawford 287/1. Sear I 164.
     
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  10. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I agree, Valentinian. That is a special one too. Rome looks a bit tired here, is she grieving?
    The birds flying, do they have anything to do with augurs? Watching the flight of different birds were among the signs from the gods that the pontifs were looking for.
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That is a lovely C Piso Frugi, Sveissen. The bust of Apollo is especially artistic.
    One of the reasons why the one below is my favorite is precisely because every square millimetre of available flan space has been exploited to fit the design. :shame: However, I do think the chosen types are so unique that I imagine it must have made an impression even when it first rolled out of the mints back on the middle of the 1st century BC.

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius. 4.03g, 18mm. Rome mint, 47 BC, L. Plautius Plancus, moneyer. Crawford 453/1c; CRI 29a; Sydenham 959b. O: L.PLAVTIVS, facing mask of Medusa with disheveled hair. R: Aurora flying right, holding a palm branch and conducting the four horses of the Sun; PLANCVS below.
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    One of my many favorite RR designs: Mn Fonteius 2b.jpg
    MN. FONTEIUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS FONTEIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Jugate heads of the Dioscuri
    REVERSE: Galley under oar
    Struck at Rome 108-109 BC
    3.9g, 20mm
    Cr.307/1, Fonteia 7
     
  13. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Dazzling portrait on that op coin! And some real show stoppers in the thread, hubba hubba;)
    Since my favorite design on an rr isn’t my best looking, I’ll share a few (and don’t you dare yuck my yum):
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  14. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I’ve had my finger on the bid button for that one many, many times :) I want one with very little wear and well centered. The complex dies seem to have been clogged up many times on this type too; the reverse or parts of the gorgon (especially the hair) are often mushy. Yours is a very nice example.
    While the Piso coin is beauty in simplicity, this is a design more complex than most roman coins. It is interesting to see how the engraver has tried to create dept and a feeling of three dimentions by using different scales on the three horses, the largest one to the left, and stacking them upon each other. We are used to this on the typical quadriga reverses, but they have a more standard symmetry, and the movement is most often in one direction. Here, there is movement in all directions. There are few examples of silver coinage with this style, from this coin was minted and for the next 15-1600 years, to my knowledge. I come to think of this modern example, combining neo-classical and art noveau:
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  15. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I’ve always liked that discouri double portrait. Never hurts with a galley on reverse too.
     
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  16. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    My goodness, this coin checks so many of my boxes. A nightmare that turns into a dream on the reverse. If ever you need to send that coin off for safe keeping... well...
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    think of me:D
     
  17. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    that's a nice friggy...and some lovely coins of the members..:) friggy 010.JPG friggy 009.JPG check 013.JPG check 015.JPG
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree with Z but his is higher grade than mine. There is quite a difference in style quality on these so I am looking for a well struck and fine style coin with all four horses clear. Mine is poorly struck and has a lot of reverse flatness. Wish me luck.
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    What I really want is an upgrade on the variation which shows snakes at the side of the face. Mine is worn and on a small flan.
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  19. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    I haven't gotten seriously into Republican yet, but if I had to pick a favorite, it would be either the Plautius Plancus denarius, or one of the early pre-denarius didrachms.

    From my own collection, I mostly go for aesthetic appeal, rather than history like I do for Imperial.
    Mn armilius lepidus denarius.jpg
    Q Thermius denarius.jpg
    Memmius Galerius serrate denarius.jpg
    M furius l f denarius janus.jpg
    Republican c piso frugi.jpg
    Lucius marcius philippus denarius 56bc.jpg
    Albinus Bruti denarius.jpg
     
  20. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    Roma has one with a really nice obverse and snakes as earrings for auction now. Reverse off-center, though. Good luck! :)
     
  21. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    If you want to get into the history bit too, I recommend this book:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Roman-Republican-Moneyers-Their-Coins/dp/0713476729
     
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