WTH......MS70 coin with a crack/scratch?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ButItsSoShiny, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. ButItsSoShiny

    ButItsSoShiny New Member

    I just got an American Silver Eagle that was suppose to be a MS70, and it has a friggin crack/scratch on one side.

    Exactly now does that happen? it was packaged well.

    Grading was by "Numismatic Authentication Company".

    I notice that people collect error coins, would there be any desire for these?

    Also, i have a 2010 ASE proof that has a shiny silver back and matt raised surface, whereas the 2011 mentioned above is kind of dull all over. Is this how its suppose to be?
     
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  3. SoaringEagle

    SoaringEagle New Member

    Are you sure the scratch is on the coin and not the holder? Also there are really only a few co's that are reliable. NGC, PCGS, and ANACS are the ones to look for. The rest of them are (more of) a crapshoot.
     
  4. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Numismatic Authentication Company is a basement grader. Meaning, do not believe anything you read on the slab. They will simply mark every coin as MS-70. Some ASE's (or any coin for that matter) are more dull than others. The more "shiny back" ones have better eye appeal due to a better, more full, strike.
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    That's your problem.
     
  6. Lagaidh

    Lagaidh New Member

    Agreed. These smaller companies are trying to manufacture conditional rarity all the time.

    I would like to add, however, that a coin could exhibit a die break line and still be considered MS70 "exactly as it left the die". I know that's a really rare scenario, but it is possible.
     
  7. ButItsSoShiny

    ButItsSoShiny New Member

    Yeah, i'm very sure its on the coin. It cuts right across the sunshine ray and a closer look shows it stops and carrys on into the dress.

    I'm learning very quickly about the better graders.
     
  8. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    Like I have said in many past threads:
    NAC (Numismatic Authentication Company) is a "basement slabber" grading company off of eBay that grades coins only MS-70 and PF-70. STAY AWAY!
     
  9. ButItsSoShiny

    ButItsSoShiny New Member

    I made a rookie mistake. I had read up on the graders and in my haste got this grader mixed up with NGC. Hey, i got my first coin about a week or so ago....quick and relatively cheap lesson since its going back.

    I'll know to slow down next time and pay closer attention.
     
  10. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Another lesson to learn - Buy the coin, not the slab.
     
  11. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    We have all been there, well, me for sure. I am still learning lessons. :)
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Good advice! Kings to You Count Mondego!
     
  13. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    +1 Not sure about the seventy on everything....but another useless company!
     
  14. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    It still is worth 30 plus or minus.
     
  15. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Thank you. ;)
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Well the others have covered the explanation for the scratched 70, I take this one. Yes that is how they are supposed to be because the 2010 is a proof which comes with mirrored fields and frosted raised devices. The 2011 you described as being MS-70 or Mint State. It is NOT a proof, and it should have a dull matte surface with little or no contrast or difference between the fields and the devices.
     
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