Would you call this Unc.

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  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    First, a disclaimer...this isn't a coin, but I saw it on e-bay where a customer complained it was sold as Unc. Would anyone consider it Unc.?
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  3. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Unc details, maybe. Something is wrong with the surface, but I can't tell exactly what from the pics.
     
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  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    IDK but it looks like she's been in a sailors pocket.... on shore leave in Bangkok Thailand.
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    It ain't a coin? What is it? And like 'Paddy' mentioned above, it looks to be a bit of drunkin' revere........
     
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  6. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Yes yes I would call that "uncirculated" also, I would call it an unpolished casting of poor quality :D :D :D
     
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  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Uncirculated details, environmental damage.
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Why would you call it a casting?
     
  9. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    raised uneven grainular surface in all the fields as well as bubbling on the tail feathers and flowers on the obverse... Maybe it's just the pictures but that screams casting to me and having spent 4 years working in a foundary doing lost wax casting this is what a poor unpolished casting looked like from experence :D
     
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  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Moderately honest seller, could this just be environmental? BTW, I would NEVER buy this myself.
     
  11. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    to be 100% sure I would have to have it in hand, but I will say the bubbleing could be pitting from ED and what looks like a raised surface could be bag dings... but if you look at the reverse field just to the right of the wings there are several y shaped "extrusions" in that granular blob... this is a commonly seen flaw seen in the casting process, caused by poor wax absorbesion (sp) of the casting medium (usualy because of poor prep) The more i look at the pictures the more I'm sure it's a casting...
     
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  12. Millard

    Millard Coindog Supporter

    Kinda looks like zinc rot
     
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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Unc or not I’d stay away from it.
     
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  14. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    I got ask...what the hell are you getting at Carl? ;)
     
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  15. RogerC

    RogerC Well-Known Member

    The toning I see, and the "cleaner" areas around some of the devices, suggests to me that this was struck, perhaps from a damaged (counterfeit?) die.
     
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  16. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    I give up. If it isn't a coin, what is it?
     
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  17. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    As a counterfeit I would say that that looks UNC. Cast dies don't give you much room to polish and prep them correctly.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    He'll have to answer for himself, but I believe he's talking the fact that "it" has a ton of wear on it and therefore isn't anywhere near unc ! Which of course is also why the customer who bought it complained to begin with.
     
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  19. Kentucky

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    Just looking on e-bay and I often look to see why buyers give sellers less than 5-star ratings. Saw this one and the posted picture was claimed "uncirculated", but I didn't think anyone looking at it would com up with "uncirculated", though I was just wondering if it were just me...
     
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  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    :):):), oops..."isn't my coin"
     
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  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Counterfeit. The mint mark does not match up with what I’ve seen other 1881-S dollars. It looks like the little mint marks on the 1921-S.
     
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