Would you buy an MS65 $20 St. Gaudens for $1750?

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Well, would you?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    6 vote(s)
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  3. Not sure; need more information

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  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    If you could buy a 1924 PCGS MS65 for $1750 (Greysheet is $1930...?), would you?

    (It is not, in my opinion, a true MS65.)

    (I know, I know... "buy the coin, not the slab"... but it should hold its value better as a 65 due to the slab if I can buy it under current Greysheet, right???)

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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Well, let's consider a few known facts before making a decision. PCGS Auction Results indicate $1750 isn't a bad price for an MS65 1924 Saint, but it's not a great one either. The last 100-ish auction results there have been recorded in the last year alone. Given that there are - in PCGS slabs alone - over 40 thousand others in MS65 just like it and over 8 thousand in 66, I hesitate to pronounce that a particularly attractive deal or any kind of "cinch" for future value. Heck, there's only a single Morgan Dollar with an MS65 Population that large - 1881-S.

    Me, I'd want a no-question 65 for that price.
     
  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I prefer 62-63 range. You can pick them up for a lot closer to melt.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It depends, what was gold at when the grey sheet was printed?
     
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  6. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    As of June 10 GS bid is $1900. Hard to tell but,from looking at the pic the coin don't look that bad. Maybe offer the guy $1700?
     
  7. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    Yup, IMO 63 is a better buy
     
  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I waited till I found a MS65 on eBay for $1575. Nabbed one in newly listed bin a couple months ago.
     
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  9. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Where the heck are you guys finding MS62-MS63 "closer to melt"? Must be local coin shops, coin shows, or eBay...?
     
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  10. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    If you don't think it's a 65, then it's not a 65. I don't care what the slab says.
     
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  11. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Closer to melt does not mean close to melt.
     
  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Looking at the eBay prices tonight, $1,575 for an MS65 was the steal of 2016. I can't find one below $2,100. I admit I'm tired tonight, so what am I missing, if anything?
     
  13. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    Plenty of common date Saints selling for below $2100.
     
  14. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    It was an NGC. And I won on best offer I think, actually. I don't have it anymore. Moved it at a show. Maybe it was 1595?....
     
  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Note my reply above. Those numbers came from results of real-world sales in recent months. Few 1924's in MS65 go for as much as $2100 these days.
     
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  16. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    What would local coin shops, or dealers at shows, pay for a common-date MS65?
     
  17. Dancing Fire

    Dancing Fire Junior Member

    $1675-$1700?
     
  18. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Unless it was clearly undergraded and/or had CAC, no way market for 1924's is anywhere close to $2,100.

    Have to use completed sales on Ebay and then check with HA to get a feel for the market.
     
  19. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

  20. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

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  21. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    That's what I thought but figured I'd ask to be sure. Thank you.
     
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