World Grading Coin... is it a bust?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by dmr0834, Jul 1, 2009.

  1. dmr0834

    dmr0834 New Member

    I recently obtained some coins from a recently deceased relative. Among the lot are a couple of nice looking Morgans rated and slabbed by WGC. The little research I have done makes me fell less than confident the slabbed grades are accurate. Should I send them to one of the top 4 and have them regraded, and if so, should I leave them in their current slabs or remove them? Any opinions on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Why not post some pictures so the forum experts can give their opinions?
     
  4. dmr0834

    dmr0834 New Member

    Here are a couple of pics of one of the coins rated by WCG. Please be aware I am not in the best setting for taking quality photos - the pics look a lot better without the shadowing.
     

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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Based on your pics that one isn't worth sending in.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    From the image I don't feel this is a coin to send in.
    I would just enjoy it the way it is.
     
  7. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    The 1901 O that you have pictured looks like an AU Details, and looks to have been altered in some way (cleaned) It looks like a polishing, although it could be the shadows.

    I would say not worth sending in. The MAX value this coin could be is around $20, so I would keep it the way it is.
    If you have more, feel free to post more pics
     
  8. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    AU 50 - edges chewed up...sorry
     
  9. dmr0834

    dmr0834 New Member

    First, I want to thank those of you whom have given me advice on the two coins I have asked about.

    Its amazing how one can be forced into learning new things in life, such as, when a relative leaves you a box of coins and have absolutely no idea what you are looking at. In the few short days I have had the opportunity to begin educating myself I have come to believe WCG is a less than desirable rating company - I know eBay isn't totally on the up-and-up but it is a good place to find the unscrupulous. I have checked a lot of coins being sold on eBay that have been rated by WCG and can't seem to find any with less than an MS state - that, in and of itself, raises red flags for me. Anyway, I now have a box full of mint sets, proofs, various denominations of coinage (some of thses have been rated by PCGS), silver certificates, and approximately 85 Morgans in various states, unslabbed and slabbed - rated by PCGS, NGC, ANACS, PCI, and WCG (these last two rating companies not being reliable I assume). Where does one go to see if there is value in the coins, and more importantly, since I think I might now have the bug, how does one get more educated?
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well dmr, you apparently have ambition enough to search things out for yourself - that's a dang good start. Many tend to just ask questions of others and not ever try to find out anything for themselves.

    That said, just stick around here and feel free to ask whatever questions you may have. But while you're at it, spend some time reading what you find at the various links in this section of the forum - Numismatic Resources Just about any question can be answered by using what you find there ;)
     
  11. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Coins in WCG holders should be treated as if they are uncertified. Most of the ones I have seen images of have been so badly over-graded as to make the grades meaningless.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    If any of the PCI slabs have green labels and 10 digit serial #s they may be graded about right. After that I don't feel they did a very good job. Just something to consider.
     
  13. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Welcome! Stick around here and you'll learn alot! Coin collecting is a great hobby.
     
  14. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

  15. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    The PCGS Price Guide prices are often unrealistically high. I don't know either way about Numismedia prices.
     
  16. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Well in a few weeks/months redbook 2010 will be waaaay outta here.
    PCGS is high, which is why I gave the link to numismedia, because that is what I use to put a value on my coins.
    Now don't just use these two things, compare, and see what makes the most sense, get The 2010 Guide To United States Coins, or redbook.
    I use the redbook, the numismedia price guide, and ebay's completed listings, to see what the coins go for, and what they are valued at, so I can value my coins accordingly.
     
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