Will this be Bodybagged by TPG ?

Here is a 1960 D/D DDO Lincoln (FS-1960D-101) with a rim ding/damage. Is it severe enough to get body bagged by PCGS or NGC in your opinion? If not, what grade might one expect? Lots of polish/file lines in this variety.

Thanks

Jim

 

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Jim , I would hope not , but I think it would JMO, it's still a beautiful coin , wait for the experts .
Rusty

 

No expert, but I don't think its a rim ding. Maybe planchet flaw? I'll be watching to see what the experts say.

 

Thanks for looking guys! Noost, that thought crossed my mind, but I fear it would still prevent a graded slab. I will see if those with more TPG experience check in tomorrow.

Jim

 

yup scratches wont pass unless the TPG's are sleeping. its pot luck but they are sleeping

 

Well, I see where a photo might be hard to distinguish whether a line is raised or inclused. When I first posted this, I hadn't considered this. Here are 3 more photos where I labeled the scratches ( incluse) in red and the vast majority are raised from die polish/filing (green). I don't know how the TPG would treat that , but the last photo is from a NCG MS65 slab of same error coin.







Here is the same area from the NCG MS65 for comparison.




Thanks

Jim

 

If you have too much doubt, send it to ANACS.

 

Die polish lines should not inhibit nor enhance the grading/grade of the coin.

That mark (red arrows) above the "6", the first time I saw it, I thought of a lamination. I cannot tell for sure from your photos, but is it possible?

 

The scratches on the surface will body bag it if I've learned anything around here.

Ruben

 

Just went and check again, but no, when tilted a hair under the scope they look exactly like coin edge marks. Just the photo straight down makes it look like that.

I have noticed that so many of the 1960D issue ( especially the SD) seem to have such abundance of polish lines. Especially this variety.

Thanks for looking ! Appreciate your input.

Jim

 

Ruben, I am not sure which scratches you are referring. There are a few legitimate scratches on the coin I admit, but the majority were there when the coin was struck.
I should say IMO.

Jim

 

That scratch above Lincolns head, IMO, is not a minting issue.

Ruben

 

Do you mean scratches like these, Ruben?

BTW, it is your pic of your certified coin.

 

Jim , are the lines to the right of Lincolns face polish marks or cleaning scratches , if they are die polish lines I think it wouldn't get bodybagged , but if they're from cleaning lets hope like Spock said they're sleeping .
Rusty

 

Hey Rusty

Can you take a look at the SLQ in the US Cons thread and tell me if you think it is real.

Ruben

 

Do you mean the 1925 ?
Rusty:hatch::hammer:

 

Rusty, they are similar to the top of the first photo in post #7, the green arrows are die lines, red are one or 2 small scratches. ( X40 mag).

Jim

 

I have seen coins with worse scratches than that in both PCGS and NGC slabs , though it's just my opinion I think it would slab . Seems to me most of the lines are die polish lines , BTW I like the coin .
Rusty:hatch::hammer:

 

That coin will grade at PCGS or I'll pay for it