Why not 90% silver anymore?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by EdGs, Dec 10, 2024.

  1. EdGs

    EdGs Active Member

    Why does the mint no longer use 90% silver in their silver offerings?

    Would any of you prefer 90% silver over the current .999? Why or why not?
     
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  3. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Would you prefer 85% "gasoline" fuel, with the remaining 25% corn syrup?

    Savvy?
     
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  4. Joshua Lemons

    Joshua Lemons Well-Known Member Supporter

    Purists would likely say they prefer the 90% as it was the purity used in classical U.S. coinage. With the outrageous prices the mint is charging now, I am glad that they moved to the .999 purity. At least you are getting more precious metal content. I do think the mint used the increased purity to justify raising their prices.
     
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  5. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Nobody else in the world uses 0.900 fine. It is actually cheaper - even with the extra silver content - to use 0.999 fine.
     
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  6. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    I have no idea. But for old coinage, maybe it's better that it was only 90% silver. The other 10% copper might have given it a longer shelf life through circulation? I don't know, maybe the experts can answer that one.
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's what I remember reading at the time. It was getting tougher for the Mint to source the 90% stock. And with today's astronomical premiums over melt for silver and gold issues, it's not like they're going to lose money as a result.
     
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  8. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The remaining would be 15%, arithmetic major.
     
  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I will reply to your thought, which I avoid doing for many years.

    YOU MISSED THE ENTIRE POINT (as you usually do) .... THE"MATH" ERROR THAT ISNT.....

    Dyno got it immediately.
     
  10. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Oh, then forgive me. I just thought you were stupid.
     
  11. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Let me assist you...Brazil... and for years other SA locations, use E 25...i.e. TWENTY-FIVE %.

    This started in the 70s, because of an oil import "shortage".

    It continues to rely on biofuels, with imported ethanol being tariffed 16-18%, as a "solution" to fossil fuel. There is consideration on the table to expand to 70%, and heavy tarriffs on U.S. imported corn syrup and/or fossil fuel. One wonders why... (that is satire, btw).

    Every and any Mechanic in the world knows you do not buy any vehicle of any nature that has done service in Brazil, unless you own a successful scrapyard for autos.

    I am extending you the courtesy of free education, this one time, because I know stuff, and enjoy sharing.

    Answer or not, I can accept you having the last word. I will revert to not responding to your Posts or replies.

    PS: How bout' dem Lions?
     
  12. DM1

    DM1 Active Member

    I wish the mint would adopt that .999 policy for all their gold offerings.
     
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  13. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    It would be way too soft and get beat up before it ever made it to a holder or slab.
     
  14. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Gold COIN alloy is fixed by law as 0.900. Not the mint's choice. 1/10th 1/4 1/2 and 1 ounce "Eagles" (American Gold Eagle, AGE).

    AND they have authority to mint BULLION, which is 0.999 and can choose designs.
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    91.67% (22 karat), right?
     
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  16. DM1

    DM1 Active Member

    The Mint already makes some of its gold coins in .999. The gold Buffalo, for instance.
     
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  17. EdGs

    EdGs Active Member

    This is where some of my thought was going. Wasn't sure if it was more strike-friendly, etc. The proof coins of the 50's and 60's just have a different look to me. Maybe it just has to do with methods and processes used then compared to now.

    That makes sense.

    I know that the modern gold coins are 90 ish percent so the coins aren't uber-soft.
     
  18. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    No

    0.900 fine.

    For example, the Greatest Generation coin act (https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1057):

     
  19. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me


    Based on your Congressional citation of H.R.1057 above, the Secretary of the Mint is granted the authority to mint the $5 gold coin in any purity above .900 (90%). It does not state the purity must be precisely 0.900 fine.
     
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  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I love Science....
     
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  21. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    Ditto Love on the Clear Comprehension of the written word.
     
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