Why Maximianus again and again?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Why is a question that rarely has a really satisfactory answer. That is why toddlers trying to get on parental nerves ask it so often. Today I got my third coin from the third officina of the Maximianus HER KOY LI series that I have posted here so many times and even have a page if there is anyone new here who cares to be introduced to it.
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/code.html
    The 'why' of this post is to ask 'why?' not to provide valid answers.
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    Why did I win this coin? I won because I was the only bidder. Everyone else thought it was not worth the opening bid. I bid on it mistakenly assuming that I would win one or two of the other coins in the sale on which I had bid more strongly and adding this would dilute the postage cost. Don't assume. I was outbid on the others. This new one cost nearly double the other two shown below combined. They were bargains. I was a fool. It won't be the last time.

    Why did I want this coin at any price considering I had the others below? There are three versions of each of the three parts of the name Her Koy Li (Hercules). This is the one I lacked. Gamma for officina three is in the right field rather than in the middle or start of the exergual legend. Why did they make three variations based on this placement? I would love to know. The new coin also has a portrait head rather than the military bust. That means a set of the three reverse placements from three officinae and two bust types would be 18 coins. Trying for that set would seem a bit obsessive. Right?
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    I suppose we might allow for the possibility of other variations or errors. The coin below with gamma at the start of the exergue has a rather clear A where it should have a lambda. We rather often see errors caused by Greek language diecutters getting confused when working in Latin. This Siscia mint worker may not have been all that strong in Greek.
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    By my standards all three of my coins are good enough for my collection. The new one is least clean with many colors of deposits and tone on it surfaces. Fans of Wabi-Sabi http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/wabisabi.html may not see this as altogether bad. The coin also has strange die style. Compare the bodies of the three Hercules figures. Which is body builder and which might be a bit effeminate? Which emperor figure has realistic legs? Which has beady little sticks? Compare the three clubs held by Hercules. I'm building a case for looking closely at little things when selecting your coins. I am not suggesting you buy them all. That is the sort of thing done by fools like me - not by normal collectors.
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    It's a gem and in my opinion the nicest of the three illustrated here. The detail is great. The bust is what makes it stand out to me. Most of this bust type from this series I have seen have been really scrappy.
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Perhaps. I don't have the KOY with that portrait style.
    HP:
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  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Neat find Doug. All my coins of him are scrappy :D
     
  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    These "heroic nude" busts have always appealed to me. My only coded from this series is a type already shown.

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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    The new one is really nice. I have nothing from this interesting series.
     
  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    All are lovely Maximianus coins.
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    MAXIMIANUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C M AVR VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, radiate cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: IOV ET HERCV CONSER AVGG, Jupiter standing right holding sceptre & orb facing Hercules standing left holding Victory & club, S in lower centre, XXI dot in ex.
    Struck at Antioch 286-95 AD
    4.3g, 22mm
    RIC 622 crescent S
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    MAXIMIANUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, radiate cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Jupiter presents Victory on a globe to Maximianus, H Delta between
    Struck at Heraclea, 295-6 AD
    3.8g, 21mm
    RIC VI 14
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    MAXIMIANUS
    AE Fraction
    OBVERSE: IMP C MAXIMIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: CONCORDIA MI-LITVM, Emperor standing right holding Victory on globe with Jupiter standing left, holding sceptre. Lower centre: delta (A, B, Gamma, Delta). Mintmark: ALE
    Struck at Alexandria, 305-6 AD
    3.5g, 22mm
    RIC VI 59b
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

  10. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Actually it is my old coin. I hope you will enjoy it as I did for a number of years
     
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  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Mentor, sorry that you didn't win the other coins that you were gunnin' for as well

    => here is my humble Maximianus thread-addition ...


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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I really enjoy your write-ups @dougsmit ... even though I do not focus or chase the Emperors hard, I learn a LOT from their histories and mintages from you comments. Sincerely I thank you.

    I regret that I only have ONE Maximianus...

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    RI MAXIMIANUS HERCULIUS 286-305 CE antoninianus Antioch 292-295 CE CONCORDIA MILITVM Jupiter H-officina 8
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Not in my book. But, I'm an obsessive collector, take what I say with a grain of salt.

    BTW, nice coin.
     
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