Why Did I Want This Coin?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Oct 24, 2019.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Maybe some of you eagle-eyed CTers can see what is so special about this denarius struck for Domitian in 95-96 AD?

    D788 var..jpg
     
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  3. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Just a guess: has it something to do with a missing bird?

    My RIC says that there should be an owl at Minerva's feet. I don't see one.
     
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  4. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    owl2.jpg
    No owl at the feet of Minerva...

    EDIT... OOPS sorry Orielensis too quick for me!
     
  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Excellent coin David. That is the first example of a Minerva type M2 error with no owl that I have seen. A very nice addition to your collection.
     
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Correct guys!

    D788 var. 2.jpg

    This is an unusual example of the standard Minerva on capital of rostral column lacking the owl, which should be at her feet to the right. Given the rigorous standards in place at the mint under Domitian this is a mistake you will not see on another coin.

    Not long after this coin was struck Domitian fell victim to a palace plot. I wonder if he had seen this coin would he have taken it as an ill omen?

    D788 var..jpg Domitian
    AR Denarius, 3.10g
    Rome mint, 95-96 AD
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P XV; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: IMP XXII COS XVII CENS P P P; Minerva stg. r. on capital of rostral column, with spear and shield (M2)
    RIC 788 var. BMC 231 var. RSC 293 var. BNC 207 var.
    Ex Private Collection.

     
  7. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Yes, I think he would have. Since the owl is representative of Minerva an owless coin would have been a sign that Minerva had deserted him. If I remember correctly, I think Domitian had a dream shortly before his death. In that dream Minerva had deserted him.
     
  8. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    "I think, therefore, I am."...

    "It was there, therefore, I want it." :joyful::joyful::joyful:

    Seriously, nice specimen! :happy:;)
     
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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    :rolleyes:...ah another coffee shop philosopher...:D
     
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  10. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Which is why he would have flipped his wig (pun intended) if he saw that coin! :cigar:
     
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  11. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Yes! Apologies to Jean Paul...:happy:;)
     
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  12. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    @David Atherton, congrats on the rare Minerva and thanks for the interesting post. Here's my common Minerva (type M2) on the capital of rostral column with blurry owl, struck about 7 years earlier.
    Domitian Denarius 667 Blu.jpg
    Domitian, AD 81-96. AR Denarius, 3.53g, 18.8mm, Rome mint
    Struck AD 14-Sept-88 to 13-Sept-89, fourth issue with TR P VIII and IMP XIX COS XIIII.
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM PM TR P VIII, laureate head right
    Rev: IMP XIX COS XIIII CENS P P P, Minerva standing right on capital of rostral column, holding spear and shield; owl standing to right
    Ref: RIC II 668
     
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