Whizzed Barber Example

Here is an example of a Whizzed Barber Dime , for a larger picture go to
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=29063&Lot_No=24274#photo

This one isn't so obvious because it has toned over hiding the fine brush lines . The Brush lines are more evident on the reverse .
rzage




Courtesy of Heratige , ha.com.

 

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My opinion of TPG coins is no secret. This is one instance where I find TPG companies actually fulfill a purpose in numismatics. It is quite the shame that NGC and PCGS refuse to slab "problem coins" and thus rob the numismatic community of the opportunity to learn from them. You can read books and try to find examples, show pictures to others for opinions, etc. But to actually obtain an authenticated coin with a specific problem and study it in hand is one of the greatest learning experiences one can have in our hobby.

Great find there! You have a great learning tool in hand!

 

yup, just slab the problem coins as genuine. That'd be a huge help and IMHO what the TPGs are supposed to do best.

 

If we are showing wizzed/cleaned barbers, i have a good example of one I had for about 3hours.

 

Death!
Death to those who would whiz Barbers!

Nice thanks for posting.

also, Joshy, thanks for showing. But, it doesn't look whizzed, more just cleaned.

 

For 1st offenders we can be lenient , chop off both hands .
rzage:hatch::hammer:

 

Agreed, sorry that I was so harsh.

please forgive me.

 

Hate to see a perfectly good coin, whizzed, cleaned, RUINED, they are all the same to me...
And are you sure that death isn't too extreme, I think it is just right.. LOL!

 

Well they are Barbers , nothing can be too harsh , but just in case you an T$ feel charitable , either way is fine .
rzage:hatch::hammer:

 

Both PCGS and NGC do slab problem coins.

NGC = NCS
PCGS = Genuine and you just have to lookup the code for the issue.

 

Nice example, Rusty. Raw, that coin would fool a lot of people from photos, me included.

 

Neither of these organizations educate the community. Bad choice of words I used, maybe, but neither of them will helpfully identify problems and how it affects the grade of a coin.

"Non-gradeable" is not part of the standard I use. Regardless of the problem with the coin, the coin's condition is something that should always be able to be opinionated. Problems, highlights, exceptional attributes, et al, are items that should be appended in comment to the grade given.

I'll stop at that, as this is neither a grade debate thread, nor a TPG bash session, but I will still hold to the opinion that both NGC and PCGS are useless to the hobby as they are currently implemented, and it's nice to see a TPG coin able to be useful as an overall learning experience.

As regards to "looking up" the issue for the coin, there is no reason why it cannot be printed directly on the label. Not every collector, or up and coming collector, utilizes the internet for their hobby.

 

And, with PCGS, you will get a code for "altered surfaces" or "damaged/tooled," neither is especially enlightening.

 

I own only one whizzed coin. Coincidentally, it is a Barber Half Dollar. I am not condoning whizzing or any other surface alteration technique, but when done properly, the result is really not that unattractive.

 

Lehigh, did you find that the whizzing in the fields altered the way the luster "rolls' when the coin is tilted in the light? I agree, that is a skillful job, the telltale parallel lines are barely visible.

 

Actually looks like luster , but isn't that the purpose to look like the coin has luster .
I just got beat on the coin up for auction , it would of made a nice teaching coin but not for $100 .
rzage

 

The coin has what appears to be cartwheel luster but it breaks over Liberty's cheek which has an almost polished look. The coin is attractive but at a glance the overall appearance just seems a little off. Upon further inspection, it is almost impossible to miss the altered surfaces. However, this coin would fool most novice collectors. I bought the coin for AU money on E-Bay. The seller stated that the coin was cleaned but I did not see any signs of cleaning in the scan. When I received the coin, I quickly determined that it was whizzed. Given the attractiveness of the piece, I decided to keep it as a teaching tool.

 

Can you do us a favor when you have the time and take a good closeup to show everyone the metal build up along the devices, as well as the striation in the fields from the whizzing. This would help people new to this to be able to identify this form of surface alteration. Thank you in advanced.

 

Ionize & ultrasound Lehigh ??? Nope is see field marks ever so slight. Good job,but not good enough. Traci