I had an old and severely tarnished 1964 quarter that I wanted to experiment with so after making a solution of 1:1 silver jewelry cleaner and water, the coin now shows a white film where the toning and tarnish once was. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Maybe I'm using an incorrect dipping concoction?? (BTW, soap and water did nothing as far as removing the grime or grey toning)
Sometimes toning can start to react with the planchet... especially in the event of environmental damage that usually causes severe and unattractive toning. Under this toning the surfaces can become impaired and once the toning is removed you see the damage. Which is usually white and lusterless.
Some of the chemists here can say better than me, but it may also be because you mixed it with water. Not everything mixes with water. There are several things it could be really. What LostDutchman said is true in some cases. It could also be that you did not dip it long enough or you dipped it too long. It might even be the dip you used itself, not all of them are right for the job. This is the thing with dipping coins. Not all coins should be dipped. Only some of them should even be considered as candidates for dipping. It requires a good deal of experience to be able to look at a coin, first determine if the coin should be dipped, then determine what dip to use, then determine how long to dip it. And you also have to rinse the coin right away to stop and neutralize the dip once you are finished dipping it. And this neutralizing agent can vary depending on what dip you used. Sure, you can experiment with old worthless coins to try and learn these things. But it takes a lot of experimenting because of all the variables involved. You are usually better off to just forget about it and leave the coins alone. Or, have someone who knows what they are doing do it for you.
Deeply toned coins often do not dip well and leave either a filmish appearance on the coin or leave a yellow or urine color stain on the coins. This is likely due to that fact that the oxidized layer of silver is deep enough to etch the coin to a very mild degree. In these instances there is little one can generally do to save any luster since the flow lines that create luster will be pretty much destroyed.
Give the man a cigar And there are those coins where if the toning is allowed to continue it will damage the coin to the point that conservation, dipping in this case, will no longer do any good.
Stop it ? No. But you can certainly slow it down. Point is, once it's reached that point is it worth the risk ? You really don't know how much further the toning has to go before it causes damage, so slowing it down may not even be a viable option.
Using acetone and dipping are two very different things, cannot be used interchangeable, and should be thought of in very separate ways. Abnd doug, my first post was mostly tongue in cheek - there are a few cases where even I would recommend dipping. They are much rarer than most other people, however.
I had a similar thing happen recently with a tarnished quarter my grandmother gave me when I was a child (i.e. sentimental value, no numismatic value). The film after dipping was removed by vigorus rubbing with a soft cloth. Of course, I wouldn't recommend this for any coin of value.
Thanks for the answer. Somewhat I expected. Tarn-x is thiourea and sulfamic acid ( same materials as found in silver coin dip) and a proprietary "polishing" material. It is designed to remove the tarnish and the polish will attach to the surface of the " say silver spoon" and is generally a abrasive was to be rubbed off with a cloth, leaving a shining silver surface. I suspect some of the white material could be polish remnants, maybe even in some of the surface pits and would not rinse out with water. I would try pure acetone to see if it might dissolve any polish material. Shouldn't hurt the coin. Use glass containers, preferably outside away from flames, and repeat with a new solution each time. In California, used acetone can be allowed to evaporate.