Where do coin price guides get their prices?

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  1. ahearn

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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Only what someone is willing to pay for it. Nothing more.
     
  4. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    What is the value of the dollar?
     
  5. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    Yes, I was asking the same question about red book prices. It is obvious that they don't use market prices. I'm thinking HSN.
     
  6. ctrl

    ctrl Member

    Red Book compiles their prices based off of surveys from dealers nationwide that are run through an editorial/analyst board if I remember right. The rest mostly rely on some variant of auction prices and surveys, or in the case of very rare items that haven't sold in a while, raw guessing.

    [Edit] I should have read the link in the OP first. Sorry for repeating what it says there. Very informative article.

    Reminds me of a recent Legends newsletter where they slammed price guides as 'irresponsible, incompetant information peddlers'.
     
  7. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    It is a very good article on the methods used by the various pricing guides. I still find ebay the best way to get a market value of a coin throwing out the obvious fakes, etc. from the mix.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Most price guides are found where ? In magazines.

    What sells magazines ? Information that people want.

    What information do people want ? What they want to hear.

    What do people (in this case coin collectors) want to hear ? That the value of the coins in their collection is as high as it can be.

    So what prices will price guides use ?

    Do I really need to answer that ?
     
  9. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I think the people that write the prices for guide books are retired weathermen.
     
  10. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    Books are usually annual, magazines monthly so I would think the newspaper format guides and articles would be
    more up to date. Then again you have closing bids on EBay.
     
  11. Numismania

    Numismania You hockey puck!!

    Besides ebay, you can look up realized prices on Teletrade and Heritage, maybe use a combination of all of them, possibly average them out.
     
  12. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Don't know where they get prices from but does it matter? Most experienced buyers know not to use them. Realized sales are the real value of a coin.
     
  13. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    There is a feature article on Coin Update specifically about this topic. I believe the person who wrote it, worked for Coin Value Magazine for a few years researching selling values.
     
  14. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    Whatever a willing buyer and seller settle on I guess.
     
  15. quartertapper

    quartertapper Numismatist

    I was sitting in the living room the other night planning my next trip to the local coin shop wondering the same questions. Something tells me that the answer is much more complex than most of the answers posted here. I'd like to think they are based on something with a little reasoning behind it. I use them to try and predict trends. Imagine if the prices are all based on someone's wild guesses...
     
  16. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    GD why do you keep asking yourself questions if you already know the answers. looks like my time off has been bad for you as usual :D
     
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