What's going on with this Peace dollar?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by xtrmbrdr, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    I bought this awhile back for close to melt, and I have always wondered why it looked the way it does? A little background on this coin, it is slabbed and graded by PCGS. Can anyone tell me why it looks like it does, and I'd be interested to hear your opinion on a grade.

    If you click on the pic it should grow to gigantic proportions, I bought a new lens for the camera :)

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  3. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Looks like fingerprint toning patterns to me.
    Guy~
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    My thoughts too. Somebody hack into AFIS.....this guy's got to be stopped.
     
  5. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    LOL If so, it seems they have put there grubby fingers on it from all sorts of angles.
     
  6. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    looks like fnger prints, thought for a minute it might be thread patterns from a clothe or bag, but the more I look at it I think its finger prints.
     
  7. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I'd recognize that left-hand whorl and ridge pattern anywhere: Pretty Boy Floyd!!

    Somebody call Purvis, tell him to bring his gat.
     
  8. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Thumb print left when someone coated Peacey with liquid fiberglass hardner?
     
  9. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    That was actually my first thought, that it looked like fiberglass cloth, then a burlap bag. But the curvature now makes me think it's a finger print like the others have said. I just have never seen such a thing tho, especially from an MS graded coin.

    Wouldn't the fingerprint automatically indicate wear, and thus, knock it down to an AU grade?
     
  10. just coins

    just coins New Member

    I would say it's finger prints look at the reverse , you see some finging licking good prints there to, a dead give away of a hamburger eater

    jc
     
  11. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    If you will look closer, I believe you will notice they belong to Jimmy Hoffa! :cool:

    Ribbit :whistle:
     
  12. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Come to think of it, you may be right! I think Pretty Boy had his fingerprints removed-- or was that Dillinger?
     
  13. Joshycfl

    Joshycfl Senior Member

    I think your right!!! Take a gander at this print taken from.... well lets not get into that part... But its an exact match!

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  14. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    It looks to me like a long time ago this coin was "thumbed", a technique used on older silver coins to help hide incomplete strike or slight wear on the high-points. It appears to me that this coin may have been thumbed many many years ago and has finally toned where the fingerprints rubbed the coin.
     
  15. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    I don't think fingerprint. How would the pattern get down in the recessed areas?
     
  16. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    what recessed areas? the relief is quite flat. IMHO those are definitely fingerprints. I say thumbed.
     
  17. TheNoost

    TheNoost huldufolk

    Red circled areas
     

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  18. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    In addition look at the eye area, the marks are strongest in the recess of the eye and weakest around the high areas outside the eye.
     
  19. just coins

    just coins New Member

    The coin is evident of that , they are finger prints, because it's also on the reverse

    JC
     

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  20. the_man12

    the_man12 Amateur Photographer

    Since nobody has guessed the grade yet, I'll go 63.

    P.S. If you don't like it I'll gladly accept it as a gift!
     
  21. xtrmbrdr

    xtrmbrdr Senior Member

    I actually bought it for what I'll call it's interesting look. I was not aware a coin could tone around finger prints like this.
     
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