What would this be called?

Not sure the proper classification of what is going on with this Two Cent piece. The rim and denticles across the top of the coin are strong and sharp. The opposite is true across the bottom. The denticles around 8 o'clock seem to be missing and there is what looks like a folded over fin at 9 o'clock.

Any thoughts?

Z

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Finning..... Not sure how or what causes it. I'm sure one of the folks in the know will fill in the blanks.... Imagine pouring batter in a waffle iron and it squeezes out around the edge of the waffle iron when you close it. That's rather how I gather we get finned coins.... I have had them that were so sharp that they would cut you like an old tin can.

 

It could be finning or a rim cud. If it’s folded over material, finning. If solid, cud.

 

@Randy Abercrombie , @Kevin Mader

I guess I should have been more clear with my question. The weakness of the denticles on the south side of the coin vs. the sharpness of the denticles on the north side - is this a misaligned die? Is it an out of collar strike? Off center planchet positioning?

The sharpness of the denticles is what has me scratching my head.

Thanks for your help.

Z

 

Is it sharp at the same position on the reverse?

 

Z - Sorry...skipped over that last bit. But it could be that the die face coined on an angle. And misaligned. That would explain the tapering off and for the missing denticles.

 

The missing denticles on the bottom / south of coin could be from a collar clash if the hammer die is was the obverse die. The missing denticles at 8:00 is a rim cud which is really just a die chip. I believe both of these can be caused by a mis-aligned / tilted die. Reverse photo would be helpful.

 

No, the reverse denticles are fairly consistent all the way around, but there is a tiny bit of weakness opposite the missing denticles on the obverse. See below (the photo is a bit out of focus and I wanted to take another).

Z

 

As you wish ^^^. I need a more in focus shot. I'll try to get one, but work beckons . . . . .

Z

 

I'm noticing how that in the reverse picture the dentices at the top (which would be the bottom on the obverse) are right at the edge while the ones at the bottom are way within the field. Off-center strike coupled with a coin tilted in the die?

 

Here are a couple of more in focus shots of the reverse. Interesting to note the small cud in the denticles that was hidden by one of the white mounts in the first reverse photo.

The first photo shows the reverse rotated the same as the obverse. The second shows the reverse normally. The denticle weakness is much less pronounced on the reverse, and I have die cuds on both sides of this one.

Z

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Nice Pics! I'm no expert on pretty much of everything, so I'll just stay watching....

 

I think it is interesting to note that right next to the missing denticles there is a nice well struck date, which suggests there is no weakness of strike, just weakness of design on the die itself. JMO

 

T

hat is what is throwing me too.

 

It really does look like a well struck specimen. Added character with a tilted die/clash and rim cuds. I like it!

 

Perhaps a slightly tapered planchet? Just a guess.

 

The same kind of issue, while not as extreme, plagues my bes
T 2-cent piece. That and some questionable color on the reverse is making me hesitate on choosing it for sending in to grade.

 

Also if'n you dont mind, seeings that yours is holdered, what kind of grade did it get? There's not a lot of graded specimens for comparison to help me weigh my decision.

 

I am thinking tilted mis aligned die.
Cool little rim cuds. Most tapered planchets will show a weakness on both sides of the coin face.