What type of error is this?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Endeavor, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    The rim seems to have a lower lip. The face is deeper than the average penny from the high point on the rim. Also the top part of "United States" was struck on/close to the edge/lip. Coin is 2000-P.
     
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  3. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    Some type of die clash maybe?
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Wish I knew more about errors to help . I'm reading From Mine to Mint , hoping that will help .
     
  5. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Looks like effects from die deterioration.
     
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Look at the coin closely, in particular what you call the lower lip of the rim and the rim directly opposite that. At 6 o'clock you have the line (lower lip) on the rim. At 12 o'clock the rim is extremely narrow, not even all there. These uneven rims occur when a coin is not centered well when struck. A well centered coin has equal sized rims all the way around, a coin not well centered doesn't. It is often caused by the dies being slightly misaligned. It is so common it even has its own name, MAD - misaligned die strike.

    A coin being well centered is one the criteria used to grade coins, but in this day and age it is largely forgotten except by those who really know how to grade.
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I don't believe the OP is referring to the centering of the coin Doug. I think he';s referring to the "lip" on the inside of the rim.

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    Mike Diamond wrote about this in a recent Collectors Clearinghouse in Coin World of which I cannot seem to locate at the present time.
     
  8. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Non_cents had the right answer. This is a form of die deterioration that the late Eric Von Klinger designated as a "ridge ring". It's common on copper-plated zinc cents.
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Ahhh, OK, I thought he was talking about this -

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  10. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Well maybe the OP will chime in ?
     
  11. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    Hello. I was mostly curious about the rim area above "United States". Thank you all for the replies.
     
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