What machine at the mint could cause these marks?? (See dings on stars, "L and i"

I don't think they are caused by coins. I think the coin got stuck in some part of the process which somehow caused the stress fracture in the planchet. All the marks are similar shape and size. The depth is the same except that of the "i".







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It appears to be a crack in the planchet. Can you see the crack on the reeded edge, too? I wonder if it could have been caused in the upsetting mill.

Chris

 

Chris,
Did you read the title?

DV

 

I've seen them often enough on Mint State Morgans to think they were probably edge hits at an angle acute enough so no reeding marks were transferred.

 

As a matter of fact, no! I didn't get that far in English Comprehension.

I don't see a mark on an "I", but the marks across the "1st star - right" and the "L" look like ordinary contact marks. You must keep in mind that most of these dollars were stored in $1,000 bags for about 40 years.

Chris

 

Thanks. @SuperDave if you ever want to inspect it in person just let me know.

 

I need to find a bag or at least a lady in a nursing home who had a hubby who didn't want kids so he left the misses everything and she's lonely. I have no standards.

 

I'm sorry, but I sure do! She would have to have at least 10 of those bags...........full!

Chris

 

Not me. One BattleCreek bag and I can retire.

 

I'd starve to death sitting at the camera if I ever ran into something like that.

A bag of Morgans weighed north of 60lbs. Heavy, but light enough for a burly man to toss one, especially if he was just creating a pile in a room of coins nobody cared about (which is essentially what Morgans were, and why so many survived in bags). You can imagine the force of some impacts generated by that, which is why you so often see the massive divots of a reeding hit on some of them. A little lesser angle of impact, and you get that rounded mark from a true edge/corner hit. The "donating" coin might flatten slightly, but probably wouldn't show what we'd call a "rim ding."

 

Can you show the NGC label?

 

The "E" has something going on with it. I was thinking die crack but now I'm thinking scribble lines. I'm really not sure with this one though because the "E" has its own then the star has one that connects to the E. Very interesting coin. The opposite side looks like it has been struck through some type of debris. I'm liking it more and more.

 

A machine at the mint did not make them. Many happen as they drop into the bin after being ejected from the press. The rest result from storage and handling. They are called contact marks, impact marks, dings, bag marks, etc. See Post#5.

IT"S A DIE BREAK! Die breaks are raised and microscopically zigzag. Go to VAM World and look at 21 Morgans to see the circular die polish call "scribble lines."

 

I mentioned that in your other thread. A substantial percentage of 1921 dies cracked in that exact place, although the progression of yours close to the denticles like that is a bit of an anomaly.

 

"Scribbles" are the very reason I stopped collecting VAM's. I think they are stupid! It's like sorting wigs by the placement of each strand of hair.

Chris