What is this, if it's even genuine

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by numist, Mar 10, 2025.

  1. numist

    numist Member Supporter

    A friend sent me these pics. Yes they have been thoroughly chastised in the way they held this coin to take the pictures. I have no idea if this is real or not. Hoping that somebody here might recognize this as either a genuine or a fake which is what I think it might be. FB_IMG_1741590786811.jpg FB_IMG_1741590782378.jpg
     
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  3. Glen Lindwall

    Glen Lindwall New Member

    See CNG e506, lot 119. Coin is from Polyrhenion in Crete. Not necessarily a fake.
     
  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    it looks pretty fake
     
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  5. Silphium Addict

    Silphium Addict Well-Known Member

    You posted this last year with the same photos:
    What is this? | Coin Talk

    At the time, I sent you this message:
    This Polyrrhenia drachm die type is very rare with only 11 recorded examples, most overstruck on coins of Kyrene.
    This is an electrotype of BMC Crete Polyrhenium 9. Here is the original in the British Museum:
    https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_RPK-p23C-1-Pol
    You can see the same edge defects on obverse (bull’s head) at 12, 1, 3 and 6 o’clock; reverse (spear head) raised edge rim from 9 to 2 o’clock, the same field blemishes on both sides and even the residual silphium plant axillary umbel (from the overstruck Kyrene coin) on the reverse from the letter P onto the spearhead shaft!
    The British museum had electrotypes made of many coins in their collection, but I have not seen this one before.


    I have read more about the Ready electrotypes. I still have not found this specific one, but apparently thousands of electrotypes were made by the Ready family. Here is a summary about Robert Ready and his sons who made the electrotypes:
    Robert Ready & Sons, London, Electrotypists

    Did you or your friend check the weight and examine the edge for the letters or seam?
     
    Last edited: Mar 11, 2025
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  6. numist

    numist Member Supporter

    Sorry, I did post this last year but was contacted about it again and didn't remember.
     
  7. romismatist

    romismatist Well-Known Member

    Definitely a fake based on the casting bubbles on the obverse and other issues.
     
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