What is this Die error worth can't find any for this year

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Pendragon, Jan 9, 2016.

  1. Pendragon

    Pendragon Member

    It is on Ebay for a 1971 dime. It looks like it was 1) off center and then 2) double if not triple stamped and 3) looks like it is MS almost, but cannot find any like it on any other site so what would you pay..Granted it is a 71 dime but the error from what I can tell is 1 of a kind out of 100,000s of thousands
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  3. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It doesn't appear to be off center. My initial guess is struck through grease or through plastic of some sorts, but I'm really not sure. I'm interested to hear what others say.
     
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  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    1) It is not Off Center
    2) It is not Double or Triple Stamped.. coins are not stamped they are milled
    3) What is MS?

    Looks like Die deterioration.. nothing major.
     
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  5. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    I don't believe this is correct. Coins are made on a press. Milling something usually involves cutting away a portion of the material with a cutter or other tool. This is definately not how coins are made, at least not in the USA.
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I am correct
    Quote - "In numismatics, the term milled coinage (also known as machine-struck coinage) is used to describe coins which are produced by some form of machine, rather than by manually hammering coin blanks between two dies (hammered coinage) or casting coins from dies." closed quote

    I want to share this webpage with you - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milled_coinage
     
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  7. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    Not having ever heard of Milled Coinage, I thought you were referring to the process of milling, which is not how coins are made.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milling_(machining)

    Sounds like we might have a clash between ancients and more modern coin collecting here....at least as far as term familiarity...
     
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  8. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    But before closed collars our coins were in a way milled round , using a castaining machine to impart the edge lettering and making the coins rounder . Though this was done more by squeezing the coin than by a rotating milling cutter .
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I tend to agree, but this is as extreme as I've ever seen it and therefore you gotta noodle potential other causes. I doubt letter details would show through as they do if it were grease, and the sharp edges of the depression give the impression of metal having physically fallen away from the die. This is one I'd sure like to hear @mikediamond offer an opinion on.
     
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  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I would agree with end stage die deterioration. Funny though to see this from Denver which generally makes better coins overall and has better quality control than Philly.
     
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  11. Pendragon

    Pendragon Member

    So what would it be worth it looks like it might be Mint State maybe even better if not for the errors and both sides having errors
     
  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    No real value but face if just from a worn die but if you like it then by all means keep it. It is cool looking.
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    There is not_a_chance that coin would leave my collection if I owned it. :)
     
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  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    One interesting coin for sure as I really like the date and In God We Trust . Another who might know @Jim M .
     
  15. Pendragon

    Pendragon Member

    See I have seen both sides I have heard on other sites it could be worth 100's if not thousands as it is one of a kind error for the whole year in all mints so I have heard that is why I came to the pros
     
  16. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It looks struck-through to me. Note how the ME of DIME fades out just inside the sunken ring.
     
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  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    This one is wicked cool for the "what the heck" factor.

    I hope the op can send this one to mike for an in hand assessment. I'm itching to know the exact cause (and best guess as to what the obstruction was if it is indeed a strikethrough :))

    I've never seen anything, even a strikethrough, like this.
     
  18. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The seller is asking $400 for it. So I don't think I'll be examining it any time soon.
     
  19. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    If someone collected things like this and really wanted it, it would be worth whatever they were willing to pay as long as you aren't misrepresenting it and calling it something it isn't. If someone saw it and said "I like it. I must have it. I'll give you $50 for it!" Take the money. ;)
     
  20. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Looks like severe Die Deterioration to me.
     
  21. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Oh yeah, I would keep it also but a few here are not interested.
     
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