What is the depression on this coin called?

I am very pleased that the guys who know the answers are holding off a while so others can guess.



How do you think it happened and what caused it?

 

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What, no poll this time?

 

A piece of crap was sandwiched between the planchet and the die. We call that a "strike-through," I don't know if you ever heard of it.

 

What do you use to take photos like that? Someone Sneezed on the planchet before it was struck.

 

It's not a Brownie Starmite II, mine can't get pictures like that.

 

I bet it is expensive! Please tell me what it is so I can drive my wife nuts to buy me one.

 

A delamination that happened after striking. I say after striking since it appears that the S struck up and then the piece of the planchet fell off. If the planchet piece had fallen off before the strike, the S in that area would not have struck up properly.

 

I am very pleased that the guys who know the answers are holding off a while so others can guess.


No more for today. There is always one...

@eddiespin: A piece of crap was sandwiched between the planchet and the die. We call that a "strike-through," I don't know if you ever heard of it."

This member is correct.

 

I concur my good man but through what?

 

Is that flaw worthy of a grading deduction or would you ignore it?

 

Hmm. Good Question.
I say have it attributed as a "strike through error" if it's cheap enough to do and then if worthy of being graded then do so.

 

@Insider, I should have held my horses. I'll follow your instructions better the next time. Thank you for giving me a pass this time. I am, after all, an old horse.

 

From a technical grading standpoint, absolutely no. From an "eye appeal" market grading standpoint, who knows what evil lurks in the heart of a TPG grading it for their market? The Shadow knows...

 

Personally, I’d leave it raw. Strike throughs are nice to find but not worth the cost of grading unless a really nice one has occurred.

 

This is my favorite strike through, a 2020-P known as the Blind Bat Quarter.

 

eddiespin, poster: "I should have held my horses. I'll follow your instructions better the next time. Thank you for giving me a pass this time. I am, after all, an old horse."

@eddiespin,
You are a class act and a very valuable member here. You did get the correct answer. Thankfully for some members I'm not running this place and I do not set the rules or control when someone can post. You caught me in a sour mood as I am running out of quizes that are challenging to every one so I like to get at least a few incorrect responses so we can talk about them. Here is one:

"A delamination that happened after striking. I say after striking since it appears that the S struck up and then the piece of the planchet fell off. If the planchet piece had fallen off before the strike, the S in that area would not have struck up properly." CORRECT! Now what indicates it is NOT a delamination?

SensibleSal66, posted:I concur my good man but through what? I'll see if I have an image of something similar.

BadThad, posted: "Is that flaw worthy of a grading deduction or would you ignore it?"

Great question that becomes personal and I cannot answer for other TPGS or collectors. I'd rather own this coin that one without the defect. I grade the coin (70 if otherwise perfect) and put Struck Thru on the label. ICG has at least one collector who looks for strike thru errors on slabbed bullion. He figures he get's two bangs for the buck! I agree with him.

 

Since I got it wrong in the beginning, I'll go for the possibility of 0 for 2:

1) There are no other indications of planchet problems elsewhere in the portion of the coin shown;
2) The curve of S is affected but it struck up indicating that whatever was on the die was sufficiently soft/malleable that the die could strike up in spite of it. Like a piece of wood but not a piece of hard metal;
3) The surfaces of the affected area do not actually appear like delaminated metal and are in fact somewhat variable in their appearance, possibly indicating that what ever was on the die was of either variable hardness or was destroyed in a variable manner during striking.

 

Perfect! I don't ever recall seeing any lamination that became delaminated that did not show some evidence of peeling somewhere.

 

Would this be a struck through as well?