What has been done to this Morgan!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kentucky, May 30, 2017.

  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Saw this on e-bay and wondered...whaaaaaaaaaaat?

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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Looks like it was polished and then stood on edge with a blue wall behind the photographer...
     
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  4. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    The ebay listing probably says ****PROOFLIKE A+++++ UNC**** :hilarious:
     
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  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    You made me look back, and indeed, the listing says "cleaned or polished". Looks almost like it was chrome plated.
     
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  6. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    That, friends and neighbors, is a crime.
     
  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    It looks like it was polished on a jewlers rouge wheel. Belt Buckle Material now.
     
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  8. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Just a polished coin with weird lightning. Might have sat in a bit of mild acid or dip solution for a long while before being polished too.
     
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  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Yeah, just polished. You can do this with baking soda and a toothbrush.
     
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  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    No thank you...
     
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  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That one looks like someone used a jeweler's cloth on it to me. It's the only thing I've seen that will give a polish that much sheen.
     
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  12. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    No. That would leave a very distinctive pattern in the surfaces that this coin does not possess. This coin is not whizzed - it is polished. There is a difference.
     
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  14. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    It's a cloth buffing wheel and they are used for polishing. You can achieve a near chrome plate finish with the right polishing compound. o_O
     
  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You don't get marks when you move things at Dremel speed, either. :)

    I'll bet this one has had so much metal removed that you could tell the difference on a scale.
     
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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  17. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Sweet! I'm gonna go make some proof Standing Liberty Quarters!!! wheeee!
     
  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Stipulated. This coin, however, demonstrates two strong arguments against that method:

    1) Relatively large-dimension pitting on the surface, indicative of machine work so strong as to remove metal. The surface of a planchet is not perfectly homogeneous in terms of hardness - there are "stronger" and "weaker" spots in the alloy, and machine work will often result in the "cratered" look we see on this coin, on both fields and devices.

    2) The "halo" of unpolished areas is very small, only found in the tightest of nooks and crannies on the coin. In order to achieve this by hand with a polishing cloth, one would have to painstakingly employ either fingernails or a sharp stick to put the cloth into spaces that tight. Machine polishing can achieve this simply by pressing harder, and 1) indicates they pressed very hard indeed.

    So, although your point is perfectly valid and it's likely a large plurality of "polished" coins arrived there by that method, this case indicates machine involvement to me with a reasonable degree of certainty.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    That's one screen ... ruined. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I've never "whizzed" a coin, but one of my cats has. :cat:
     
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Figures that it would happen when I was trying to be completely serious...
     
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