What happened to this peace dollar?

I know, when in doubt assume post-mint damage, but it doesn't look like a scratch, and if it was, it managed to get into the protected areas on Liberty's headpiece, and the protected area by the rim. I doubt it's a die crack either, as it doesn't appear to be raised metal and it's far too regular. Any ideas?

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8176/1921peacenn6.th.jpg

 

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PICTURE IS TO SMALL to tell.

 

Looks like a bad scratch from what I can see. But NathansCoin is right. Your picture is way to small to tell.

 

Looks like I linked to the thumbnail by mistake. Try this
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1921peaceko8.jpg

 

Maybe it was made in China

 

It looks like a planchet flaw to me. A huge planchet flaw.Can anyone confirm this?

 

Looks like a scratch to me.

 

edits have a title?

querry:
If a long curly metal shaving from a lathe were to get between the planchet and die, what would it look like?

<i>see also</i>: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarf

 

A new VAM?

 

It looks like a planchet flaw to me as well!


Frank

 

I'm no expert, but that doesn't look like a planchet flaw to me. The mark looks like it cuts right through the O in GOD. If it were a planchet flaw, wouldn't the top of the O look depressed or missing a little piece, not scratched over?

 

you're right 09S, at least I think you are at this point.

toddestan, any chance you could post a magnified view of that "O?" . . . preferably with deep shadowing to show incuse and relief? (light source held at slightly above plain -- but without too strong of contrast so that detail can still be seen in the lower areas?)

I know, I know . . . who has a photomicroscope on hand when you need one?

on the other hand . . . that's <i>precisely</i> what I <b>imagine</b> a swarf obstruction to look like. look at the other end of the pic -- the rim is incused at the crossover point -- or at least *appears* to be.

I wish I could see the coin itself.

 

In this instance, I believe that it is a planchet flaw.
Sure the O should be depressed, and it appears to be.
If the planchet was struck with some material that later flaked off, then the coin would appear as it does.
Or, if there were 'bubbles' in the metal, and then struck, with teh area material falling off. Either way the coin would have the lower surface that it shows.
We'll just wait for 'found in rolls' to comment.
Stll, I believe not scratched, and a nice find.
And, no, not a VAM. A VAM is a die variety, not a planchet defect.
Frank

 

Looks Chinese to me. There are casting (what appears to be) in the hair strands. Weight check next.

Ben

 

Darn, I missed that! Nice catch.
Frank

 

does 't looke like casting to me, and believe me I do a lot of casting, the lines never double like that when they appear, but it looks like a crack.

 

The image I posted is about the best my scanner can do. I however, have access to a microscope with an attached camera at work. It may be overkill, but I'll see what I can do with the 'O' in GOD on Monday

Also, GDJMSP, I'm not seeing the file marks, unless you are refering to the area between E and R in liberty.

The weight check is also a good idea. I hope it isn't fake.

 

I see what you mean by the filing marks now. There are also similar markings on the reverse around the rims, though not as pronounced. I just glanced through my other Peace dollars, and none of them have similar marks, though the one other 1921 I have is in fine condition, so if it had any filing marks they have likely been worn away.

Are filing marks a sign of a counterfiet coin, or just that someone might have messed with it after it was minted?