what are these? newbie question

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by rkoustas, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. rkoustas

    rkoustas Member

    going through my father-in-laws coins, we found some very old ones. what are these and what may they be worth? i thing the copper one is a half penny (1735) but i know nothing about the other one. thanks in advance
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Please post pics of both sides of each coin to help us help you identify them.
     
  4. rkoustas

    rkoustas Member

    They are photos of both sides of each coin. me and digital camera closeups do not get along.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well it was the color difference that was making me wonder :confused:

    I would agree that the first coin is British half penny. Its value would be about $5. As for the other coin, I can be of no help I'm afraid.
     
  6. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    It could be a farthing. If it is those are worth a bit more than the half's. Is it the size of a penny or half dollar? The second one reminds me of one of them ancient Jewish shekel coins but I'm just guessing there.
     
  7. ccgnum

    ccgnum New Member

    Second piece is a cast counterfeit of an ancient Jewish coin.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's not a farthing. The size of the coin is one way to tell, but there is another. The farthings of the period had a much smaller bust on the obverse than the half penny. The bust on the half penny nearly touches the rim at the top of the coin. On the farthing there is quite a bit of space between the rim and the bust.
     
  9. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    That is quite ineresting indeed. As for the second I suppose it does look a bit off...
     
  10. Pinchas BarZeev

    Pinchas BarZeev New Member

    The bottom coin...

    Right (obverse) reads:
    Sheqel Israel - Sheqel from [the land of] Israel
    Left (reverse) reads:
    Yerushalayim Hakedusha - Jerusalem the Holy

    Sheqel tokens were issued by many individuals or institutions, during the ages. A diaspora Jewish community might raise funds by issuing these tokens, they may have been minted to sell as amulets to pilgrims, Jewish or Christian, etc.
    This one resembles a Goerlitz sheqel or a Meysel sheqel, pilgrims' amulets.

    Interesting reading:
    http://amerisrael.com/article_false_shekels_2.html
    http://users.iconz.co.nz/translate/shekel.htm

    Enjoy your pilgrimage to the world of Holy Land numismatics!
     
  11. rkoustas

    rkoustas Member

    thanks for all your replies. its been educational. especially the Sheqel token.
     
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