Here's something I threw together over the last couple of decades. Roman struck bronze coins of Luceria and Canusium during second Punic war by Andrew McCabe as presented at the ANSCoins and CUNY Colloquium Coinage of the Roman Provinces before Provincial Coinage I stunned some peeps with a rock and then fed them whisky before coercing them to write these comments on the presentation: "wonderful, clear and deeply important" "remarkable" "wonderful job demystifying and detangling" Enjoy Andrew http://twitter.com/andrewahala
An excellent presentation Andrew, I enjoyed it! I wish I had some good questions but the material speaks for itself and my understanding is much more general. It would be very interesting to someday to tie the coins and maps to photos of the archeology and a narrative as to what was happening at the time. I do not want to derail discussion of your presentation but have a two (very ugly but appreciated) anonymous quadrans with the head of Hercules on the obverse, I've been struggling to attribute... would it be alright with you to post them for a look? (again, very ugly). Thanks!
Very nice presentation, thank you!! I can't find any clear evidence of overstriking on my Canusium triens (the spot in front of Minerva's chin is corrosion). Of course that doesn't mean it isn't overstruck. Am I right to think this series was struck around the time of the battle of Canusium in 209?
That's an excellent CA triens much better than my own collection example. If you ever feel like parting with it let me know. Suspect the CA trientes were mainly (over) struck in 210 BCE as Marcus Laevinus brought a ship load of the Acarnanian bronzes back from Aetolia in 211
@Andrew McCabe Excellent presentation. Although I generally don't collect AE from the period, this was enlightening in its relevance to the events and the whole of the coinage from this period. Thanks for sharing.
Makes sense to me... often these are dated as late as 195 which seems unlikely. Thank you! I'm extremely unlikely to let it go while it retains a lofty "better than McCabe's" designation. Which doesn't help you much, sorry!
Thanks Andrew! Like I mentioned, they're not pretty. The two are probably common and maybe even the same type. They've been set aside for quite awhile as I don't have the experience to tell them from other similar coins, I couldn't resist the opportunity to ask about them. Roman Republic - Anonymous quadrans - 3.67 grams, 21x19mm - Unidentified This one may have some weight loss due to porosity/corrosion Roman Republic - Anonymous quadrans - 3.5 grams, 19mm - Unidentified
With this weight and style, both of these are likely among the second Punic war lightweight issues struck in Sardinia, Sicily and Campania. McCabe group H. Very often found overstruck on Sardinian, Sicilian or Campanian, or Carthaginian types. But sometimes the overstrikes aren't clear. Probably struck 205-200 BC, and supplanting local civic coinages. They didnt stay too long in circulation as most found in decent condition. 3.5 grams is about half the weight of a normal Rome mint quadrans which are typically 7 to 11 grams.
Thank you Andrew for taking a look. I really appreciate the information... and now the coins more too. It's fun to be able to connect with some of the most knowledgeable people on the subject on even the rougher looking treasures that find their way into our collections. Thanks again. PS: Last question... So you feel these are both roughly the same coin, regional coinage of about the same few years. Are any notable differences? Thanks!
