VF30 or AU50???

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  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I'm a capped bust guy. Have been for years. But I have NO IDEA what a TPG would grade this coin. It is not hairlined. Very late die state Overton 113a. Has AU luster, but awful details due to the strike. What do you think?
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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I would assign a technical AU grade, but I would buy it at an EF price as a curiosity.
     
  4. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    IMO, AU easy. The coin looks like an AU-58 flat strike. If it were photographed in florescent light we could see how little rub is on it.
     
  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I think the most likely grade from a TPG would be a 35/40 in that order. I had a very similar half cent that was just as obvious as could be it was a horrendous strike and never really been touched, tried twice to get it out of the XF and into the AU and never could.
     
  6. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    XF 45 with a shot at 50 IMO
     
  7. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    TPGs market grade, and that's not a market AU50 coin unless O-113a always looks like that.
     
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    That coin is AU (53/55).
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    From Heritage, here's one for comparison.
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    It only sold for around $250. Most people prefer a better strike, of course, but an AU is an AU. I'm afraid I'll get a couple graders that don't know anything about this Overton and slap an XF40 on it. Good thing I only paid $86.
     
  11. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Solid AU, IMO. The 113 didn't show great detail even when the dies were new--let alone after being worn out. This one came out of a PCGS 53 slab.

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    Edit to add: "Good thing I only paid $86."

    Wanna double your money fast?;)
     
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  12. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Nice example. Your 113 still has reeding on the reverse and looks WAY more solid in detail than any 113a (like mine).
     
  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    It is clearly a late die state, but there is more wear than I would like on an AU. I would call it EF-45 (the Skidaway Island coin posted above is just one overgraded example from an entire collection of unattractive and overgraded coins - it didn't sell for much because the collection stunk). The lack of details on the OP's coin don't bother me - that's how it was struck.

    However, this coin appears to have been dipped and is unnaturally white. That is a far bigger negative on this coin. Even if there is AU level of wear, the TPGs may net grade it down to 45 for the surfaces.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    The coin has hairlines (behind the head) but IMO a TPGS XF grade would be nuts! Stick it in a window sill on some velvet. Watch it and turn it after one side done.
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Here is another on the same order as the OP's capped bust. The seller listed this as VG cleaned. I am sure he graded i from the wheat lines. However, I do not see it as cleaned. Merely a strong woody. And I grade it XF with very light rub on the jaw and cheek.

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  16. AcesKings

    AcesKings Well-Known Member

    This is my O-113a, I have it graded as a 40.....
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