Very Old Coin Found But need some Help Identifying

Hi Everyone , This is My First Time Posting in this section, But Im stumped on this one. Im From Nj and within the last year started metal detecting to try to find some of those old coins that are alittle out of my pocket reach and so far have had a great time and have picked some good ones out of the ground . The Other Day was serching a River Bed and Found This Coin, The way you see it is the way it came out of the sand, I was a Littler surprised as i thought it was a piece of Copper but it showed up in the gold Range?? Any way its smaller than a penny but larger than a dime and is very thin, There is some letters and a Cross with Dots around it, but im still not sure, Maybe spanish or English or old colony coin? I ve been checking pictures online and havent beable to come up with anything too close to resemblem it. About 10 feet from this found two 1878 greece coins and a a few indian heads. Any Help Identfying would be great Thank You

 

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Looks like an 18th century Spanish gold Escudo. Interesting that it was found in NJ. :smile

 

You've found gold?

Fantastic. How much is it worth?

 

I Havent had it tested for being gold but it came up in the gold range, I hopeing somewill will be able to identfy this and and give a little background on it. Its gonna stay in the collection unless its worth millions and i can retire lol, But for know if will be put into a coin sleeve.

 

Wow thats awesome. I live in CT and now you got me wanting to take out the Metdet, and go find some gold spanish coins. If I found something I would be afraid I would have a heart attack right there on the beach.

Not for nothing but it were that old and copper it would be badly corroded. This seems in pretty good shape which would suggest gold or gold alloy. Gold as most know resists corrosion, and even gold coins from antiquity can be found in high mint state.

My friend, I would think hard though, if you coin is legit, then it might be a part of a wreck and there might be more. Has anyone looked, may be some are washing up. I probably wouldn't have left the site for a couple of days and called work and request some days off, get trusted friends and family for a good time metal detecting on that beach. Imagine hidden pirate treasure. I was reading an article about a couple of guys who found a coin or two in a field on the Jersey Island near England. Then 30 years later they found a super hoard of buried 1st cent. BC celtic staters something like a mass of 50,000 coins worth millions. The likelihood of this happening and probably close to zero. Although it is not outside the realm of possibility there could be more and maybe a lot more Spanish coins on or near that beach or in the water.

 

The thought of a hoard being buried in New Jersey would be provocative, but if this coin does turn out to be Spanish gold, the fact of the matter is that it is more likely just a lone coin lost centuries ago. You see, not only did pirates work their way up an down the entire Atlantic seaboard, but the "golden triangle" of slave trade during the 17th-19th centuries used primarily Spanish gold and silver for payment.

Chris

 

There are plenty of Spanish coins found off the mid-Atlantic waters. One of the best search sites is Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, something about the ocean currents converging there during storms and funneling artifacts from deeper waters onto the beach. I don't know about Connecticut.

 

I don't know about this piece, but I believe that I see corrosion on the surface (and alot of it)

I don't think it is gold based on that, but would be interested to see what the others say

 

Fantastic! Congrats!

 

Thank you Everyone for your imput, Im going to try to bring it to the jewerl to see if it is gold or not. and I will update everyone. This coin was dug up on a shoreline of a river bed. Found out the area was a trading area for seafood in early 1800s but our area was also a pirate area as well. I'm gonna be digging like crazy. So just so I know. this is belived to be a Spanish Coin? Thank you all again

 

So Had the coin checked today at Jewelry Store and it's gold. Very thin not much in weight. But I also brought to coin shop and they didn't think it was a Escudo as they said the ones they have seen have like a clover impression around the cross and The one I have Dots. If any one knows of a good sight to look at. Or if I should send it in for grading and attributing who I should use as I don't belong to any of the grading companies Thank you all again for your help

 

a few good quality pics or scans would help to ID...

 

A British gold "cross" penny was minted in 1257, but I don't know what it looked like.

 

Good for you! Did the jeweler tell you how much it weighs?

Chris

 

Very cool as I live in NJ and also metal detect!

 

Now that would be cool! Imagine a legit OOPA. Interesting a 13th century English wreck off the coast of NJ. Imagine!

 

closest cross iv found so fair and its spanish

its a crusaders cross




The cross struck on the doubloon's reverse is the "Crusader's Cross.” The stamped design signified the undivided union of the Catholic Church and the Spanish government during the 16th and 17th century.

 

can we get a picture of the back

 

THIS COIN IS NOT GOLD. Gold does NOT corrode like this. This is a small bronze/billon coin of (presumably Western) Europe, probably 14th-17th century. Please post clear images of BOTH sides of the coin, along with diameter in millimeters and weight in grams. It is most decidedly NOT a Spanish escudo.

I apologize for the bad info given elsewhere in this thread.

 

I agree 100% as even gold coins that have been shipped wrecked on the ocean floor for centuries does not corrode like that...