Very detailed coin..need the origin..

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  1. KirkCumberland

    KirkCumberland Active Member

    After long break..I got some more coins..Some I still need to find out..This one is very interesting..3.17gr 28.5mm..Any ideas of origin? C.jpg
     
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  3. KirkCumberland

    KirkCumberland Active Member

    I assume it's a coin..
     
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  4. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    It's Sasanian.. Vahram II I think.
     
  5. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Ajax is correct, it's Varahran II (275-283 AD) of the Sasanian dynasty of Persia, shown with his queen and his son. This is a scarcer type in the Sasanian series, so I would have it examined in person to confirm authenticity.
     
  6. KirkCumberland

    KirkCumberland Active Member

    I will research more..Do we know its estimated market value..? I never had such coin..
     
  7. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I think I saw that coin being offered and I had concerns about the surfaces. Look at hundreds of Sasanian drachms and those surfaces stand out as unusual, and not in a good way.
     
  8. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

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  9. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    I'm not sure but...
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    ..."Houston, we have a problem"... o_O
     
  10. KirkCumberland

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  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Its a real type of coin, @medoraman has one in his profile and owns one.

    They are a bit rareand when they come up, expensive.

    It would be a nice jewel to have in my collection.

    Can't say if the OP coin is real, so sorry.
     
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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Beautiful coin. I don't have any Sassanids, but it is a fine example. Hope it's authentic.
     
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  13. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Very different styles of art for the same type but good for ye! :shame:;)
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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    There are quite a few different styles of these with different head gear and style. I do not feel qualified to say yes or no on authenticity. I bought mine from a dealer I trust and I like the style compared to others I have seen. I am less fond of the style of the OP coin and would only buy it if it came with a pedigree through a knowledgeable seller. That does not mean I believe the coin is fake it just means I am not skilled in these to the point my opinion would have meaning.
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  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I have the SNS reference for this king. There are many styles as others have said, but also many fakes out there. Its an expensive coin, and I myself bought a fake once by not checking out the style beforehand against major published references like SNS. I can try to check out the OP coin versus the SNS tonight if he wants me to.
     
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  16. KirkCumberland

    KirkCumberland Active Member


    If you find out any additional information that would be nice..I normally buy coins from reliable sources..I requested info for other coins before in this group, some stated that they could be fake..They all turned out to be authentic..
     
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  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Always remember the Sassanians were a huge empire that was in many ways much more diverse than the Roman one. As such, die cutting skills and preferred styles varied much more than people think they did. I was not commenting at all that I think yours is false, but I simply have found it helpful to always match an unusual style such as yours to a known authentic piece helps ease doubts. Since the coins are so thin, other telltale things you look for are frequently missing.

    Btw, fun trivia. The reason Sassanid coins are so thin is Ardashir wanted to immediately issue large amounts of new coinage when he prevailed. He didn't have silver though, so the quick way to do so was to hammer flat Roman denari and Parthian silver coins and restrike them. You will notice Sassanian coins, while larger around, are the same weight as Parthian and earlier denarius issues.
     
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  18. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Maybe it´s only an "real" imitation (more or less achieved) of the same period (I have some celtic imitations of other celtic coins that looks fakes).
     
  19. pfitzner

    pfitzner Member

    Yes. It's a well-known cast fake. Why is the Prince wearing a puppy on his head?
     
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