veit nam/ annam

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  1. vmaxx05stud

    vmaxx05stud Member

    wondering if you guys can idenify this coin. looking in the book i couldnt match up the symbols to the coin. thinking it was made in china for them??
     

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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Based on the manchu characters on the reverse (top picture), the coin is Chinese, not Annamese.

    The information on the 2x2 is definitely wrong.
    • Catalog numbers on 20th Century Annamese coins are between KM#654 and 664 (plus an X31)
    • The only Annamese coin listed with the issue dates of 1907-16 (KM#664) is a brass 10 Van, inscribed "10 Van" in Chinese characters on the reverse
    • There is no Annamese coin listed with the ID Y#3
    • There are no 19th or 20th Century Annamese coins pictured with Manchu characters on the reverse.
     
  4. bart

    bart Senior Member

    About the identification with ID Y#3 : there used to be a coin with that identification. It was listed in Yeoman's "A Catalog Modern World Coins".

    I also think vmaxx50stud's coin is Chinese, not Annamese.
     

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  5. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    The French occupiers used "Sapeque" for the denomination the Annamese called "Van". Y#3 from the Yeoman book and KM#664 are the same coin. The two characters on the reverse mentioned in Yeoman are the same characters shown on Y#7 in Yeoman, not the Manchu characters shown on the original posting.
     
  6. vmaxx05stud

    vmaxx05stud Member

    i thought that myself so we looked at the china's coins but could not get the symbols to match in all repects. i read where certain warlord type rulers had some of their coins made in china. i guess i still dont kown what it is for sure. thanks guys.
    i read this in the world coin book i got from the libary and saw that the back symbols where i thought chinese mint marks. the book i used only went back until 1901.
     
  7. DCH

    DCH Member

    Coin pictured is China 1 Cash Hu-Pu Board of Revenue mint, issued by emperor Tao-kuang from 1821-1850. Krause lists it as C#1-3, XF@ $1.00. Probably Hartill 22.580(west branch mint), which narrows the years of issue to 1824-1850, other references, FD 2384 and S1512.
     
  8. vmaxx05stud

    vmaxx05stud Member

    cool thanks. the coin gallery i looked at differnt have any of them and neither would have the book. mistery solved for this one.
     
  9. erichejw

    erichejw Member

    exactly Tao Kwang cash

    Coin pictured is China 1 Cash Hu-Pu Board of Revenue mint, issued by emperor Tao-kuang from 1821-1850. Krause lists it as C#1-3, XF@ $1.00. Probably Hartill 22.580(west branch mint), which narrows the years of issue to 1824-1850, other references,


    this quotation exactly right.


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