Valentinian II - AE4 - Barbarous imitation?

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I bought this tiny AE4 because it looked to be an imitative of Valentinian in good style. Opinions?

    It is a SALVS REIPBLICAE type but try as I might I am unable to make sense of the reverse legend even though the obverse legend is quite good.

    Valentinian II - AE4

    Obv:– D N VALENTINIANVS P F AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– IIII IIIIIIIIIIII. Victory advancing left, holding trophy over shoulder and dragging captive behind her. PT monogram in left field

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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Well struck. very nice detail for such a small coin. Since I do not focus here, I regret no commentary other than appreciating your OP. I regret that I have but one Val II and it is pretty worn...
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It looks barbarous/imitative to me. But even so, it's in good style, both obv and rev.
     
  5. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    What a cracking little coin, I would have bought it too.
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    While I can't say for sure, it does appear of a different style than I'm used to seeing and suggests a barbarous type, especially the reverse and that odd legend---I LOVE it!!

    This is one of three I have (purchased sometime within the last six months) but not of a similar variety as your OP type:
    val II ae-2 obverse siscia.jpg Val II ae-2 siscia reverse.jpg

    I think we need a LRB 'expert' to clarify this one Martin.
     
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  7. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    A puzzling and very interesting coin indeed. I can nothing tell to mislead you. We need to pose many possibilities beside barbarous imitation. I would say it's a precious hunt for a curious collector.
     
  8. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    Nicer style for a barbarous issue. The reverse legend of I's kind of gives it away, as do the spherical blobs that make up the hands, and are at the top and bottom of the Christogram. The use of the letter I for legends is quite common on barbarous types. Here's an example that has nothing but them.

    Barb IIII.jpg
     
  9. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking this may have been over struck?
    Slight suggestion of a bust on the reverse....
    Possible die clash another possibility ?
    The reverse certainly has the hallmarks of an unofficial strike, but both obverse and reverse are nice and sharp. Nice buy.
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh neat, i love the style..cool that victory has a little meat on her bones. pretty sweet artistically, i'd say it's every bit as good (if not better) than the official issues!
     
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