Valentinian II AE-4

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Magnus Maximus, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Greetings all!
    I found this nice little AE-4 of Valentinian II recently. I think I will pick it up soon; it's only $25.:writer:
    What are the experts opinions on this coin( ex-authenticity, price, condition)
    Diameter-14mm
    Weight-1.11 grams

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    Thanks
     
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    looks pretty sweet to me!
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well worth the $25.
     
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  5. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Great coin and price MM, sweet!!
     
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  6. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Really nice little coin, well done.
     
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  7. Magnus Maximus

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    Thanks guys and girl!:happy:
    This coin really caught my eye with that patina,and the condition it's in.
     
  8. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    I will be "hanging" around for this coin to arrive. I know its cheesy but whatever:wacky:
     
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Looks like an extraordinary coin for the type..much better than most I've seen before...a 'high grade' example and like everyone has posted, well worth the price. And i love the patina as well!!
     
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  10. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Love it, very nice.
     
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  11. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Surprised no one has gotten the joke yet. :pompous:
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It's a nice looking coin, but I'm about 90% positive the "desert patina" is fake. Whether you can live with that or not is up to you. Otherwise the details are very sharp for the type, and it's nicely centered.
     
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  13. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Fake patina or not, I would leave it as it is.

    Good Joke MM ;)
     
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  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Interesting comment JA...especially since i read somewhere recently about artificially applying a 'desert patina' to coins....even by the collectors themselves for their coins...

    How does one tell if the patina is real or artificial???
     
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  15. Magnus Maximus

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    It may well be fake, JA, but the seller is from the middle east.
     
  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That doesn't mean anything. Fake sand patinas are popular with a couple of Middle Eastern dealers, and very popular with certain Spanish and Portugeuse dealers as well. I have soured on them, and I'll show you why. Let me edit a few pics and I'll post them in a few minutes. Stand by.
     
  17. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Okay. Can't wait to see what you have to show us.
     
  18. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    does a fake patina ruin a coins value?
     
  19. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Depends on who you talk to. Here is a case in point. Take a good look at this very rough FH. Probably most of the surface roughness is due to corrosion, perhaps some to aggressive cleaning. If I were a dealer, I'd throw this coin into the $5 junk bin...

    fh rough.jpg
     
  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    But put some glue on it, rub it with sand, and you've got yourself a beautiful "natural" desert patina. Of course it's natural, sand has been around for millions of years! YES, this is the SAME coin as the one I posted above...

    fh.jpg

    Now you've gone from a five dollar coin to a twenty-five dollar coin, and yes, I did pay $25 for it, knowing full well the patina might be fake. I was curious. In fact, it was so fake, it washed off in thirty seconds after I rubbed the coin under a running faucet.
     
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  21. Magnus Maximus

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    Do you think this coin has a fake patina? image.jpg
    Let me add; is there any way to differentiate a fake patina and a genuine patina?
     
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