Vabalathus son of Zenobia

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    In 271 AD, Zenobia the queen of Palmyra found herself harassed by the mounting Roman hegemony. She had the courage to name her son Vabalathus as Augustus. It didn't take Emperor Aurelian too much time to wage war against the usurper and his mother. Soon he gained control of that Syrian province, while Vabalathus and Zenobia were led to Rome. The following coin figures both Aurelian and Vabalathus, each on either side of the bronze antoninianus. I wonder which Authority struck this coin and under which circumstances. It weighs 3.52 g. and is believed to have been struck in Antioch. Vabalath O.JPG Vabalathu R.JPG
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice addition

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    Vabalathus (270 - 275 A.D.)
    AE Antoninianus
    O: VABALATHVS V CRIMDR, Laureate and draped bust right.
    R: IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG, Radiate and draped bust right.
    Antioch
    20mm
    3.3g
    RIC-381
     
  4. David@PCC

    David@PCC Well-Known Member

    It was minted under Aurelian, there is no AVG with Vabalathus. Vabalathus alone are very rare.
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  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Vabalathus struck these coins, but recognized that Aurelian was senior, that is why the legend for Aurelian ends with AVG; while Vabalathus merely takes the title of Imperator, which is the I in VCRIMDR of his legend. RIC states that "The coin would appear to have been struck rather as an admission of vassalage to an emperor whose great power must have been felt by the eastern ruler to be menacing, and issued rather as a peace offering than as an insult." RIC Vi pg 260

    The side with Vabalathus might actually be the obverse, as the side with Aurelian has the workshop under his bust. RIC points out though, that mint marks on the obverse were not unknown at Antioch and Aurelian is recognized through the use of AVG as senior.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  7. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I have always liked these "hopeful" types although at present I do not own one.
     
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    randygeki Coin Collector

  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I may be a little off on this but if I were admitting Aurelian was greater than I am, I would have put him on the obverse and left the first R (Rex=king) out of my legend.
     
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  10. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    So if I bought this type, would I classify it as Palmyrene Empire or Roman Empire? I'm guessing it should be the former since Antioch was controlled by Zenobia and Vabalathus.
     
  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It always shows up in Roman catalogs following Aurelian and listed as "with Aurelian". I suspect things might be different but there are not other Palmyrene coins so Zenobia and her son end up as Romans.

    For the record we should mention they also controlled Alexandria resulting in a tetradrachm. In this case, both sides have a regnal year date (4/1 here).
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  12. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Great coins, great pieces of history.

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    My friends (not my pictures):

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    Any Zenobias out there?
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2016
  13. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

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    Vabalathus, Antoninianus minted in Antioch, 8th officina, AD 271-272
    VABALATHVS V C R IM D R, Draped, laureate and diademed bust of Vabalathus right
    IMP C AVRELIANVS AVG, Radiate and cuirassed bust of Aurelianus right. H at exergue
    2.45 gr
    Ref : Cohen #1, RCV # 11718

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  15. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

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    Beautiful coins. A nice Zenobia, however, is one of my dream coins.

    (Images of Palmyra above.)
     
  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have the Vabalathus with Aurelian portraits. I IMAGINE the Aurelius is the OBVERSE...

    RI Vabalathus 271-272 CE and Aurelian Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Vabalathus 271-272 CE and Aurelian
     
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