Unlikely rarity: Severus Alexander Antoninian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by seth77, Jun 17, 2015.

  1. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    This one here is a conspicuously important piece. While still a subaeratus piece, the Antoniniani of Alexander are very rare (only 2 other specimens known - one in British Museum and another sold in auction in 1928, also a subaeratus cf. to RIC IV-B p. 83 (Cahn 60, 1928, Nr. 2042), both struck with the same dies.
    This one however was struck using different dies, to actually put to rest the theory that Alexander did not mint Antoniniani and the 2 specs previously known were actually forgeries.

    SEVERUS ALEXANDER AE21mm 4.35g Antoninianus subaeratus (aVF)

    AV: IMP C M AVR SEV ALEXAND AVG; draped cuirassed seen from back bust r.
    REV: MARS VICTOR; Mars hastening r. holding trophy and spear.
    EXE: -
    REF: RIC IV-B 157, undated issue, 233-235AD.
    (photo courtesy of Gorny & Mosch)
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    interesting coin seth, i wouldn't have recognized it for what it is at all. is that your coin?

    subaeratus: what's this mean? "below bronze"...so is this a very debased antoninianus?
     
  4. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    There was an attempted auction of this coin by Gorny & Mosch (Auction 228, 03/09/15) which proved unsuccessful with an estimate of 1500EUR.
    I used subaeratus as a variant for fourree, a plated coin, that has a copper/bronze core and a silver plating, usually a contemporary counterfeit.
     
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  5. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    I did not even know Severus Alexander issued antoniniani. Nice interesting coin for sure.
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    If we have no antoniniani that are not subaerati, we prove nothing about official issues. If we hold to the conventional wisdom that fourrees are forgeries, it still appears that all known are forgeries. The question is when they were made.
     
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Plus if you notice, the portrait looks to be of Elagablus, same features and his Ants. I know the legend says otherwise but maybe being a fake, means nothing.
     
  8. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Of course, it's more of a circumstantial evidence than definite proof (if you accept it as a contemporary fourree rather than a modern fantasy piece, which I do), unless a silver Antoninianus of Alexander appears we cannot know for sure. The certainty of my tone in the OP was due to the fact that after coming across it I let enthusiasm dictate the tone :)

    As for the resemblance to Elagabal, here is a contemporary denarius minted cca. 233AD. If you want to look for similarities with Elagabal as far as portraiture, you can see them here also:
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    Bare in mind also that the fourree Antoninianus in OP is quite a bit worn and patinated, which obscures some of the details on the effigy.
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    And here is my Ant. where the OP looks like Elagabalus:

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  10. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Mine only one SEVERUS ALEXANDER, a out of the box coin:happy:

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  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hello. This Denarius has Liberalitas on reverse holding a cornucopiae and a coin counter. It's either RIC 154 or RIC 153. I can't tell, not even whether it's silver or bronze. It weighs 2.07 g. the coin is too much better at hand.
     
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  12. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here are the scans.. A Sever O.jpg A Sever R.jpg
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    One wonders why any ancient forger would strike antoniniani for Severus Alexander when there was no "official" precedent for them. In any case, apparently not many were coined. An interesting piece!
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Okay, apparently my two Severus Alexander examples are way out in left field!!

    Pontus, Amasia. Severus Alexander. Æ35
    A.D. 222-235
    Civic year 228 (A.D. 228/9)
    Diameter: 35 mm
    Weight: 26.18 grams
    Obverse: Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Severus Alexander right, seen from behind
    Reverse: High altar upon which eagle stands facing, head left; above, Sol in facing quadriga, holding whip; to left of altar, tree
    Reference: Dalaison 566 (D145/R439); RG 101; cf. SNG Copenhagen 119; BMC 39 (same obv. die); SNG von Aulock 6710 (same obv. die)
    Other: 12 h … Grayish-green patina under earthen deposits, light roughness

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    CILICIA, Ninica-Claudiopolis
    Severus Alexander, with Julia Maesa, Æ37

    AD 222-235
    Diameter: 37 mm
    Weight: 17.83 grams
    Obverse: Draped, and cuirassed bust of Severus Alexander right; c/m’s: Nike, holding wreath, standing right within oval incuse (3) and six-pointed star
    Reverse: Laureate / Draped bust of Julia Maesa right

    Cilicia Ninica-Claudiopolis.jpg

    :eek::eek:
     
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