Unknown hammered coins

Anyone know what either of these are?

I am pretty sure the one on the right is Namur, Guy De Dampierre.

Unsure about the one on the left though, any info would be great on either.

 

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Left one is a coin of ferdinand and isabella of spain.

 

Thanks a lot Mat

 

Not my area but I believe the one on the right is a Long Cross silver penny from1272-1307 Edward I
oe even Henry III 1247 -1272

 

Thanks for the info Dave, I think the penny is guy of dampierre, it seems he must of copied the English style, it is slightly different to Edward pennies, if you look there is no crown.

And the first letter on the legends doesn't appear to be "E" for Edward.

I also read he was involved with Edward I.

 

Spanish arrows. Like this.

 

Ah cheers!

I am not hugely fond of anything other than English coins so I don't really know a lot about anything else, I think its time to expand.