Ultimate 1936 Woody

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Kinda nasty looking in my book.

 

I thought the hatching was quite impressive,its not a beauty by any means

 

Looks like environmental damage...

 

That's a gnarly scratch. Maybe a die crack? We would need better photos though. I suspect the woodie to be original.

 

I assure you it isnt

 

I think that was cat hair tbh

 

I'm not convinced. In one picture his face looks like he has leprosy


Also the edge looks like it doesn't go with the field.

 

Ive had several ppl look at this one. It is actually in really good shape.Let me get a couple more pics different light source.

 

Ok.. Thats nice. And now you are showing us. We have our own opinion!

Welcome to CoinTalk!

 

Ok,nvm then. Im not trying to change your mind,your opinion doesn't affect the coin and what it is.

 

Sorry. But I'm not convinced and I don't think other will be. Looks like something affected the field on both sides post mint.

Suggestion.. Send it in to have it attributed. That's the best way to really find out if it is legit or not. Then post the results..

That's what I have done over the years!

All Mint Errors.

 

Of course it is environmental damage / toning. If it did not tone there would be no woody effect. All woody's are caused by environmental exposure. All toning is caused by environmental exposure. Considered damage to some folks, and beautifully to others. Just because some one thinks it is pretty does not change the fact that it has been affected it's environment.

 

Not necessarily..
A woody is just a nickname for a true mint error known as an Improper Alloy Mix. So the toning could cause the effect. But the different tones can appear during the minting process.
It is explained here -
http://www.error-ref.com/improper-alloy-mix/

I just don't think the OP's coin is an example of Imoroper Alloy Mix

 

Thanks Paddy! I see the number 3.

 

This information is completely wrong. Paddy explains it. Woodies are the result of improper alloy mix. If you were to have a woody that was the result of toning, and not an improper alloy mix, it's not a true woody at all.

 

This photo makes me think damage vs Woody

 

Not necessarily. The different alloy domains in the coin may tone differently or at different rates depending on the alloy composition. The color difference on the as-minted coin may be imperceptible, while it may become very noticeable as the coin is exposed to normal environmental conditions.


That being said, I do not believe that the coin in the OP is entirely due to improper alloying. IMO, there appears to be environmental damage. Is the significant color difference due to alloying or the environment? I can’t say for certain, but I disagree with calling it “the ultimate Woodie”. You wouldn’t call an environmentally damaged coin “the ultimate toner” if it was colorful? I’ll concede that there is a fuzzy line between the two, but in the words of Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart; “I know it when I see it”.

 

Yes "woodies" are Improperly Mix Alloy coins. The thing is the wood grain effect does not show up until the coin starts to tone and the different concentrations of metal tone differently.
I do retract my statement of "All woody's are caused by environmental exposure".
They are caused by Improperly Mixed Alloy type error coins. It is the toning that lets the wood grain effect show though. And toning is nothing more than Environmental Damage. I have yet to see a "Woody" that is Not toned.

What Paddyman98 pointed out is the fact that there is two different types of IMA error coins. One most of us call a woody and the much scarcer "Intrinsic Metallic Inclusion". The forth photo(1938 coin) on his link page shows an example of the OP's coin. It is called a Mottled Woody. They are usually brassy in color.
I have no doubt that the OP's coin is a IMP.

This is really all I was trying to say.To let the OP know that his coin does have Environmental Damage. The Toning!

 

The OP's coin looks nothing at all like the example you have shown. Look at the rim and see the damage. Enlarge the picture and see the surface corrosion like texture.