U.S. Mint To Use 1794 Dollar Designs

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  1. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

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  3. Noah Worke

    Noah Worke Well-Known Member

    For a circulating coin or for collector-only strikes? I think a circulating coin with this design would be so cool, perhaps resurrecting the dollar coin?
     
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  4. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    According to the article, there will be a one ounce silver medal in 2024 and a one ounce gold coin in 2025.

    From the article:
    The medal will be a 1-ounce .999 fine silver issue, and the coin a 1-ounce .9999 fine gold issue.

    So basically just commemoratives.
     
  5. Noah Worke

    Noah Worke Well-Known Member

    Oh well, a man can dream. I'll probably still buy the silver one, given it's not too expensive.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I'd be in for a silver.......mint medals are a passion of mine. :)

    Kind of reminiscent of Jefferson's Liberty, from the First Spouse series.
     
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  7. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    I like the idea of this silver medal. I'd possibly consider one on the secondary market after the price returns to sub stratospheric levels.

    My one issue with this release is the nostalgia of it all. The cool factor intrigues me, but don't we have any engravers capable of coming up with a novel new design worthy of the cool factor?
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    When new designs come out, they are often ridiculed by the general public here. When classic designs are replicated, they're often ridiculed by the general public here. No win situation.
     
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  9. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    I prefer the 230 year old example as my first,well worth the longer time to get it.Pretty interesting though,might get one when the price cools down.
     
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  10. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    How much are these Wonka bars?? nx.gif nx.gif
     
  11. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Thanks for the heads up. I think I'll stand in line for this one when released.
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    As @green18 said, nobody's ever satisfied. :rolleyes:

    To my mind, some of the modern designs are better than the "classics". But no new design is ever going to seem as cool as the ones you've been admiring in the Red Book and longing to own since childhood.
     
  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I'll pass, but I've owned the real thing for many years.

    My reaction is "Yuck." The original coins were struck on a screw press from hand made dies. They have "character." In the words of Dr. Sheldon, this looks like "a machine made token."

    But I can understand to the desire to own an example of the design. I felt the same way when I was young. I admired some copies then, that look rather silly to me now.

    Here is a Flowing Hair Dollar

    1795 Dollar Gray All.jpg

    To show off more of the design detail, here is a higher grade Flowing Hair half dollar. A Flowing Hair Dollar with this much sharpness is beyond my pay grade, as much as I would like it. Many Flowing Hair Dollar die varieties were struck with weak details.

    1795 Half Dol O-120 All.jpg
     
  14. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I get what you're saying Bill, but many collectors, myself included, don't have the means to procure an original flowing hair dollar. What would even a poor example cost a fellow, a few thousand dollars?

    I love the design and would be happy to own this medal. I think most might also agree that getting an example from the US Mint is better than some of the fantasy pieces that are out there.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The 2024 Red Book says the price for an AG-3 is $1,250 for the three leaves variety which is the most common. Yes, I understand the problem.

    The coin has never been cheap. I paid $1,100 for this one in the mid 1980s. I sold it when I got an upgrade.

    1795 Flow Dol O.jpg 1795 Flow Dol R.jpg
     
  16. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    I don't believe that's true at all. Case in point, you and @green18 , at the bare minimum, are satisfied with this release, amongst many others. And as I've stated, I think the medal is cool too. So it's definitely not, nobody's ever satisfied.

    What I think you're trying to say is:

    "You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.
    -John Lydgate

    To which I wholeheartedly concur.
    I'm just not on board with a lot of the more modern designs. That's why they make vanilla, chocolate and strawberry. ;)
     
  17. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    Funny, I have mixed feelings on this I think it is because of being a medal in lieu of a coin. I don't have any medals in our collection.
     
  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I'm intrigued, but not hopeful.

    They're switching to a laser engraved master die rather than CNC. Will this give us additional sharpness that was sorely lacking on the Morgan commems? I'm guess that it could, but it won't.

    Will they recreate the edge inscriptions with a multi-part collar die? Again, they could, but probably won't.

    Will there be arguments over whether this is a commemorative or a continuation of the series? Of course.
     
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  19. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Does the mint still have a screw press? Would be great if they struck them using that, would really add some character. Of course, it would probably generate a bunch of w. comp cases for strained backs and shoulders!
     
  20. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I might consider getting one depending on price. for now this will have to do.
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  21. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    And then the Director's Strike™ coins will actually mean something.
     
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