U.S. $1 misprint help

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by FrankV, Feb 26, 2007.

  1. FrankV

    FrankV New Member

    Hello all, I have registered here in hopes that I can find some help with a misprinted bill I have come across. I am not familiar with the world of coin and paper money collecting, and am interested in finding out the value and/or story of this bill. Is this a common misprinting? Have any of you seen it before? How does it actually happen? What might be a ballpark value of this bill? Below is a link to photos of the bill, which has an enlarged printing of "(O)F America" streaked diagonally across the front. The back of the bill is normal. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. I hope I've come to the right place!
    -Frank

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  3. adelv_unegv

    adelv_unegv New Member

    honestly, I don't see how it could happen -- at least not by "natural" means. The bills are printed using plates. They only come in one size - the size of the bill. For the printing to be enlarged it would require a plate with the image-to-be-printed enlarged. The plates are actual size. ink is applied to the plates. paper is stamped with plate, transferring the ink. I can see NO way that the ink impression would be enlarged in a greater size than the plate that applies the ink. Photocopying, on the other hand . . .
     
  4. FrankV

    FrankV New Member

    I understand what ya mean about plates and such...but I dont know that I understand how this could be done by photocopying. It is absolutly an authentic bill, how would a photocopy print this on a bill? Another thing to take into account, if you look at the third picture of the left edge of the front, you will see the ink goes over the edge in two spots. What in the heck is this??
     
  5. Skylark

    Skylark Senior Member

    I should point out that the image is of a different denomination than $1.

    I would guess that i has gone through the printer.
    Its interesting but not a in-production error so its worth approx. one dollar, however if you sell it on ebay you may be surprised with what you get.
     
  6. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper


    skylark...

    I agree completely.. the enlarged image is of a different denomination. I am looking to see if I can pin point it. With modern day laser printing, photoshop and other software out there..all things are possible. Even the inks are getting so good!! :eek:
    No way it could be enlarged during printing!!


    RickieB
     
  7. RickieB

    RickieB Expert Plunger Sniper

    The over print of the note is done with a Ten Dollar Bill...look at the curvature and scrolling and compare to the reverse of the $10.. I think you will agree.
    The reverse of the $10 note remained the same from 1963 to 1999....I feel 90% confident on this..I always leave a margin of error. Look in the upper right hand corner of the $10 note I posted .. it is a 1981...look at the scroll work and then compare it to the over printed note.. It is a match...



    RickieB
     
  8. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    To me,that has been faked.It just doesn't look right at all.The large ghostly inscription is THE biggest giveaway.

    Aidan.
     
  9. FrankV

    FrankV New Member

    well I guess I did come to the right place! thanks for the help everyone...I guess someone, somewhere must have been fooling around for one reason or another. I might try my luck on ebay eventually, see if I can find someone who might want something like this. can anyone speculate as to why someone might have printed this on here? is it evidence of counterfit?? thanks again everyone!

    -Frank
     
  10. tradernick

    tradernick Coin Hoarder

    I think it was manmade too. NOT an error. PLEASE be careful selling this on ebay. Make sure you list it as a novelty and don't try to make people think it's an actual error. Interesting piece, for sure.
    tradernick
     
  11. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    I would personallyy keep it. Even though it is not an error, it still is interesting to look at. Liike the old saying "If money could talk" I too, would be careful about putting it on ebay. You would have to be very clear in you description about it.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  12. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum by the way! We have another Frank on our hands lol!

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  13. FrankV

    FrankV New Member

    haha several Franks around here eh?? well, again, thank you all for the info. If I do decide to put it up on ebay (mostly out of curiousity), I will absolutly make sure it is listed as a novelty, and not a misprint. I understand how touchy an issue that could become. Still no guesses as to why this may have been printed this way? Seems so odd to me that someone would do this, especially with such an authentic looking ink/print job. Honesly, looking at it in person, it really comes across as a genuine error. The ink and printing do not look amature at all.
     
  14. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I guess the most important to determine is what kind of ink you got there. If it's inkjet, it's too likely that it's water soluable and would have been washed away in moisture or some sort. If it's laserjet, the polymer that is covering the banknote will crack if you fold, crumble etc after a period of time. Lastly it could be pigment ink whick will dye the color fast on the note. Not too sure what kind it is but you might want to give it a check the last time. However I don't recommand the above methods - I'm just suggesting it could be various types of inks that aren't from the printing press.
     
  15. SanMiguel

    SanMiguel - pro patria vigilans -

    i think the lines give it away as being a non-production error. if this was a true error, and the bep somehow had a new plate order come in @ 500% by mistake, and they accidentally printed over a few $1.00's with it...the fine lines above the lettering would be sharp and distinct.

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    over the letters 'R', 'C', and in the upper right hand field over the letter 'A', you can see the relatively poor quality. the design thats supposed to be a fine mesh webbing just looks sloppy all over.

    in my opinion, somebody used this note for a test printing. one of the old counterfeiting tricks was to bleach old dollar bills and reprint higher denominations on them. heheh...obviously he had his printer set for the wrong resolution. :D this method, and it's relative ease, is one of the biggest reasons for the overhaul in u.s. currency design.
     
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