Thank you so much to everyone whom helped me with my other coins, but I still need help with these two, I would like to know if anyone can tell me what they are or where they are from and possibly a value. Thank you so much in advance for any assistance. Sincerely, Donn
By chance, is the top one lead? The ones I've seen, that resemble that one, are lead tokens from the UK and date from around 1700. Ribbit
I found a reference to your first coin, its lead, its English, and its late medieval. That's all I have time to say right now, but I'll get you a full attribution tomorrow!
In reference to the first piece, it is English as noted above, and is an early pickers token. With the six leafed floret, it is actually reasonably common as they are often found in farmer's fields by detectorists.