Two Unknown Coins

Picked them up today with others coins, Unknown to me.

 

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First one is Greek and the second one is Taiwan 1 jiao, yr 59 or 1970 if I do my calculations right.

 

Thanks alot. fast return. Cheryl

 

On the Taiwan, What is the Obverse side and the Reverse and do I have them turned the right way?

 

gxseries, I found the coin in your coin collection. Thanks

 

First one: Greece 50 Lepta, Copper-Nickel

 

Thank You. photo not very good. Cheryl

 

Taiwan is orchid flower on one side and chinese for one dime on the other. The date 56 is the first in that series and runs until 63 (1974). Is 100% aluminum. no mintage for years 57-58. These were the only Taiwan dimes used and are not circulated now. NT$1 is the smallest coin value in circulation now.

 

It's all Greek to me.

Obverse reads KONSTANTINE KING OF THE GREEKS.
(My Greek is not fluent, but I think that there is a grammatical twist in ELLHNIWN -- Hellenion, like "all things and people Greek" or King of Greekness or Greekitude. The guy is claiming.)

Reverse reads KINGDOM OF GREECE (more modest claim)
and in the middle 21 APRIL 1967, the date of the military coup against the Greek democracy which restored the King as the figurehead for the Colonels, which is why the central figure which was a Phoenix (to show the rebirth of Greece) has a soldier in front of it.

 

Chinese on face: Republic of China [jung hua min guo] 59 year [wu shi jiou nian]. Obverse has one dime [yi jiao]

 

The bottom photo (reverse) needs to be rotated 90 degrees left. The top is at the right side of your picture.

 

Year 59 = 1972 on the Nationalist China coin. Traci

 

I give up. My belief that 1911 must be added to any Republic of China year to determine the western date (which is shared by Krause) is obviously wrong, and I must bow to your far superior knowledge.

Now that you have corrected me, please notify Krause of its error as well.

(Page 468, 2008 35th Ed. 20th Century Standard Catalog of World Coins)

 

I dont understand...where did she 'correct' you? You never mentioned the date of a coin in this thread or did I miss something before this.

 

There have been a number of threads recently discussing the correct method of dating Chinese moderns.

 

Sorry my Kanji numbers are in its infancy. I tried my best. The Japanese numbers I know are read from left to right and top to bottom. I may be wrong, but I thought the Chinese numbers are read right to left. Druses, which is correct for Chinese Kanji ??? Ripley

 

Reading Kanji/Chinese numbers and translating them to western dates are two separate tasks. The first involves simple memorization. The second requires that one know the appropriate adjustment (for example +1911 for Chinese Republic, +1867 for Japanese Meiji Era, +1896 for Korean Kuang Mu Era, etc.) and then perform the arithmetic.

That depends.

From Modern Japanese Coinage, by Michael L. Cummings, 2d Ed. (1978), p.35:

My personal practice is to make unequivocal statements of fact when, and only when, I can back them up with authoritative sources. In all other cases I say "I think", "I believe", "Some authorities claim", or similar equivocal comments. IMHO that's a practice that everyone should emulate, simply because it reduces disputation.

 

Stand corrected for China coins, but Taiwan coinage is still right to left. Newspapers are top to bottom from left to right in Taiwan! Books can be in that "traditional" style or Western. Move subtitles can be either directions but tend to be more and more in Western style of left to right. When typing my reply I was only thinking of Taiwan (not China) when I wrote. Sorry for the confusion--good chance for better clarity on difference in ROC and PRC coinage. Weifin in Taipei

 

can view current site of Taiwan coins http://tilee.myweb.hinet.net/samcoins/coins_taiwan/coins_taiwan.html and see direction of characters. These are currently circulating and previously issued.

 

Don't know anything about the first coin but the second one Is Taiwan.