Two of the same coin, Is it possible?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by icerain, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    So I decided to jump into buying a few Morgan Silver dollars. To protect myself I went the graded route and also bought from a store that others had recommended. I had just received the coin today and decided to check ebay to see if I can find any more I might like... and thats when I stumbled on this

    Morgan coin

    It looks exactly like mine, it even has the same serial number. Now I may be a beginner to coins but I'm not a beginner to collecting and I know that grading companies don't use the same serial numbers. So what gives? Is the seller stealing images or did PCGS mess up?
     
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  3. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    You have the slab in hand, and it has the same exact serial number (20296410) as the ebay coin? If that's the case then no way the pics on eBay are of the coin being sold. The seller has a pretty long Neg/Neutral list, but nothing about using different pics. http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=noahdubois32&Dirn=Received+by&ref=home

    You might want to contact the eBay seller and ask if the pics are of the exact coin, should be an interesting answer. Btw, can you post pics of your coin?
     
  4. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Pretty amazing, ebay won't let me send the seller a message. According to them the seller receives too many messages. Thats a first for me, in any case here is a picture of the coin

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    Picked it up at cheap slabs. The only thing I can think of is reporting it to ebay, not even sure if ebay would care though.
     
  5. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    If this seller is using somebody elses pics I would bet the seller who sold you the coin would appreciate knowing about this also.
     
  6. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Oh they do care. They would pull the auction in a heartbeat. You might have to email ebay your pic to prove that it's not the sellers.
     
  7. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    Never hear of that before either. But you can report it, eBay has removed auctions in the past for copying pics (there was just a thread on that I believe).
    Nice coin btw.
     
  8. bonbonbelly

    bonbonbelly Feel MS68 Look AG3

    How is this guy still doing business on ebay? His feedback is awful. "Police report filled" as a response to a negative feedback. Please! This guy is a joke and gives quality ebay sellers a bad rap. Report his photo misrepresentation to ebay as soon as possible. This joker needs to be shut down.
     
  9. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    Check the top and sides of the case. Is the edges sealed? If not, then it may be from China.
     
  10. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    ??? Are you talking about my coin? The case is perfect
     
  11. robec

    robec Junior Member

    The obverse coin on eBay looks like a completely different coin than yours. Something is definitely fishy with one of the numbers.
     
  12. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    I disagree, imo the two images are without a doubt of the same coin. The hits and the toning spots are just too similar to be two different coins.
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  13. AlanFromRoc

    AlanFromRoc Member

    even assuming you have the real one, maybe it's a real one that fakers used as a template. the seller may be involved, or he may have been fooled as well
     
  14. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Well I do hope I have the real one. I used a site that some here have recommended, and I'm guessing that some forum members buy from him as well.
     
  15. robec

    robec Junior Member

    You are correct. I didn't have it blown up enough. I just saw that the dark area above the head was different on the other coin. I see all the markers now.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Did Cheapslabs have a picture of it? If they did he is probably using their picture.
     
  17. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Yes, the picture came from Cheapslabs. I notified them of the stolen image in case they want to further pursue the seller.
     
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