Two Latest FUN NEWP's

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Traz, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. Traz

    Traz Card counter

    Picked up these two pieces last week. What do you think? Care to take a stab at the grades!?



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  3. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Holy crap on that gold piece!!! MS 64? Or is that rub in the fields and it graded something like 58?

    The bust dime looks mint state to me (64 or 65).

    I think I would like to see other coins in your collection. :)
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Think I'll go 58 on the dime. As for half eagle - a lot of adjustment marks, top to bottom on the bust, and those to me should impact the grade as much as anything else. But it's the reverse that bothers me. That streak (of whatever it is) down through the shield and across the talon and arrows - I'm not quite sure what that is. Almost looks like something was rubbed, hard, down across the coin. I'll have to withhold judgement on that one.
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I'll wager that "steak" is simply an area of rub on the slab -- not on the coin at all.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Possible, but it really doesn't look like it.
     
  7. I won't take a stab at grades, but I love the strike on that gold piece.
     
  8. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    Congratulations. I was a bidder on the Bust dime - I think it looks better, in hand.
     
  9. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Very nice...
    And I grade them "WoW"
    :D
     
  10. robec

    robec Junior Member

    OMG, the 1805 is my dream coin!!! I'm with Mike on this one, 58 or 64. It doesn't even matter, I love it.

    What dime??
     
  11. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Those are some fantastic coins. I'm not good at grading so I can't say anything bout that.
     
  12. Traz

    Traz Card counter

    Thanks.

    The 1805 grades MS62 and is CAC'd. I was eyeing a few MS63's and MS64's but I am having a dealer select them for me. There were a great selection of half eagles this FUN auction.

    The dime is MS64 and CAC'd also, and I picked it up just for fun, sorry Mark - but as you know the picture does it no justice either :)

    Leadfoot, check the links in my sig to see my coins. This year there will be some beauties coming up in the early gold, and upgrading all my gold to proofs. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. Thanks again for the comments.
     
  13. Traz

    Traz Card counter

    Here are item descriptions, per HA:

    1805 $5 MS62 PCGS. CAC. Breen-6444, BD-3, High R.5. A moderate mintage of 33,183 Capped Bust Right half eagles was achieved in 1805, with five different die marriages known to collectors today. The coin offered here is an example of the rare BD-3 variety, characterized by the imperfect 1 in the date, star 1 distant from the bust, and star 9 close to Y in LIBERTY. John Dannreuther estimates an initial mintage of 2,000-3,000 pieces for BD-3, with a surviving population of 35-45 examples.
    The present coin is an attractive example, with noticeably prooflike fields. Heavy clash marks can be seen in the right reverse field, with some adjustment marks in the center obverse. Sharply struck, with exquisite detail on the central devices, and only slight weakness on the peripheral stars. A few scattered field marks prevent an even higher grade.

    1834 10C Large 4 MS64 PCGS. CAC. JR-5, R.1. The 4 in the date shows the crossbar partially broken off, with a sharp pointed fragment still visible. On the reverse, the last A in AMERICA is joined to the C and to the arrowhead. The lustrous surfaces of this near-Gem display splashes of forest-green and lavender, more extensive and deeper on the obverse. This sharply struck piece has been well cared for.
     
  14. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Beauties is all I can say. Very nice pick-ups.
     
  15. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Traz, That's quite a collection....and the fact that Mr. Feld was the underbidder on the dime (along with his comments) suggests the coin is quite attractive too. :)

    Would you please do me a favor and address the issue raised by GDJMSP above concerning the streaklike feature on the reverse of the 1805.

    Thanks for sharing - and please do so more often. :) Take care...Mike
     
  16. Traz

    Traz Card counter

    There is minor rub on the reverse, the slab is in bad shape. It will be sent out to PCGS to get reholdered and reimaged - will post the image when it gets back.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    If that "streak" is on the slab, and it appears it is, then a 62 is an accurate grade IMO. And had it not been for the adjustment marks I don't doubt it would have graded higher.
     
  18. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Prooflike coins (like the 1805) are particularly difficult to grade from photos...at least for me. :)
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, I think they are for all of us. But when you blow those pics up to their full size and see all of those adjustment marks from the top of the cap clear to the bottom of the bust, that makes it a little easier.
     
  20. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Very high end coins. It's hard to find early fives that have not been dipped out.
     
  21. Traz

    Traz Card counter

    Finally got around to getting these imaged... here they are :)

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