two cast bars and a quinarius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by rrdenarius, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    I bought a pair of cast bars recently. As a throw-in, I bought a Q.TITI quinarius. I was paying postage, so the incremental cost was about $50. I like all three pieces!

    I know we have done it often, but post something you bought together that were way different in size.

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    Roman Republican Quinarius, Q.TITI
    Rome, 90 BC
    Obv – winged & draped bust of Victory, right, hair pulled back in a knot
    Rev – Pegasus leaping right, below Q.TITI
    I agreed with the vendor’s description: A nice example, over weight and well centred. Lightly toned.VF/Good VF, 2.14 grams, 13 mm
    Note this moneyer issued a lot of coins. Crawford estimated 250 dieseach for two denarius issues and this quinarius. He also issued bronze coins.
    Cr 341/3, O/R dies = 250 / 278
    BMCRR Rome 2229 – 2230
    Sear 240
    RSC Titia 3
    Syd 693
    RBW 1276

    The vendor's description of the bars was pretty good also -
    Aes Premonetale.Aes formatum. Multiple lot of two (2) fragments of bronze ingots. Central Italy, 8th-4th cent. BC.AE.g. 87.8; g. 54.0. Two very attractive and interesting examples. Green-brown patina.

    I would add only that the small square bar piece looks a lot like a recently purchased RS bar. The color is right. Both have slight off-sets in the top & bottom of the castings. I think I see what could be a line on the small piece! The small piece is about the weight of an early Sextans.
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    A larger piece of a RS bar -
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    The triangular piece is about the size of an early quadrans (3 dot coin)
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Cool additions!
     
  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Congrats on the interesting additions!!

    The bronze bars fascinate me---especially due to their antiquity---8th-4th century BC. Any idea how they were used in commerce? I wonder what they could purchase and how the 'local villages' utilized them. Do you think they broke them down to even smaller sizes??....and that quinarius is a very nice 'throw-in .

    Hmmm, Off-hand I can't recall purchasing anything together that was 'way different in size'.....more like a denarius and a 'large' bronze. I'll try to check this later today.
     
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  5. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Love your new purchases @rrdenarius!! I have lots of items different in size, but don't remember purchasing any together. Will check when I get home.
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    OK, How about a difference of 32 mm to 19 mm???? Of course, the weight is substantially different:D


    The reverse celebrates Q. Lollius Urbicus' victory in Britain over the Brigands in 142 A.D.
    RB27134. Orichalcum sestertius, RIC III 653, Cohen II 1082, BMCRE IV 1326, aF, Rome mint, weight 24.562g, maximum diameter 32.0mm, die axis 180o, 142 - 144 A.D.; obverse ANTONINVS AVG PIVS P P TR P COS IIII, laureate head right; reverse Victory in a fast quadriga right, holding reins in both hands, VICTORIA AVG (the victory of the Emperor) over S C (senatus consulto) in exergue; big 32mm


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    The curule chair was for senior magistrates including dictators, masters of the horse, consuls, praetors, censors, and the curule aediles. As a form of throne, it might be given as an honor to foreign kings recognized formally as a friend (amicus) by the Roman people or senate. Designed for use by commanders in the field, the curule chair could be folded for easy transport. It had no back, low arms, curved legs forming an X, and was traditionally made of or veneered with ivory.

    Silver denarius, RIC II, part 1, 702; RSC II 364; BMCRE II 136; BnF III 110, aVF, toned, Rome mint, weight 3.275g, maximum diameter 19.5mm, die axis 135o, 74 A.D.; obverse IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right; reverse PON MAX TR P COS V (high priest, tribune of the people, consul for the 5th time), Vespasian seated right on curule chair, feet on footstool, long scepter near vertical behind in right hand, olive branch in left hand


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  7. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Here are 2 artifacts I purchased together that are way different in size

    Egyptian Clay Heiroglyphic Plaque.png
    3,000 BC and later
    Egyptian Clay Heiroglyphic Plaque. Most likely a receipt or token. White and gray patina
    3.84gm - 20 x 28 x 5 mm.
    Side 1: 2 registers, one with a grazing quadruped, possibly an elk, the 2nd with 1 or more Plummet(s).
    Side 2: 3 registers with triangle (another Plummet?), 'X' and what looks to be a branch.

    Byzantine Terracotta Loom Weight.jpg
    3rd-4th century AD
    Byzantine Terracotta Loom Weight holed at the top for suspension. Reddish brown patina
    over 100 gm (too heavy for my coin scale) 85x53x15mm
    Reference: Corinth Volume XII #2919, Caesaria Maritima 279, Museum of Byzantine Culture in Thessalonika, room 2 listed as 3rd – 7th AD.
     
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  8. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    @ancientcoinguru Nice loom weight. I have seen a few of those in auctions, but have not bid on one yet. They look interesting and evidently come in many sizes and shapes.
    I had to google how to use a loom weight.
     
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