i was surprised by how thick they are when i took them out of the case. for the first time, it seems.
Riff, are you sure those are genuine? The original ones are a little thick, but that one you show on it's side looks too thick. Many counterfeits of the original counterfeits were produced, and the easiest way to tell is they are too thick. I am not saying they are fake, just mentioning it. I can't find the actual dimensions of the re-strikes. And for those wondering what these are, they are Bashlow re-strikes. In 1961, Robert Bashlow used defaced confederate dies to create some re-strikes. Here is more info: http://www.rebelstatescurrency.com/bashlow.html
I don't think the original Bashlow's can be called counterfeits - they were plainly marked as restrikes by the altered dies. As you said, there are counterfeits of the original Bashlow restrikes.
the coin shop owner said they were. and bashlow made both thin planchet and thick planchet. and based on the age of rest of the collection found in the box with these, the date adds up. these were in a lock box since the early sixties. http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v13n19a10.html
Oh gotchya. Thanks for the link. I did not know that. Yours does still look thicker than the thick planchet ones. Would be nice to know the actual dimensions, just to be sure. Can you take a pic of the lincoln set and the bashlow on their sides, next to each other? So after reading a little more...The 'thick planchet" restrikes are exactly twice as thick (100/1000) as a lincoln cent(50/1000). So stack two lincoln cents and it should be the same.
I guess it's all in what one considers a counterfeit. The types the OP has could be called second restrikes, and weren't meant to fool anyone.
lol, who is disagreeing with you? I'm not. These re-strikes are different than other things like Daniel Carr counterfeits. Also, from Robert Bashlow himself: "I first intended to strike the regular production run at standard 1 cent thickness(approximately 50 thousandths of an inch). Due to fear that the Secret Service would seize the restrikes under the statutes forbidding "likenesses" of US coins to be passed, I decided to strike the production run on planchets 100/1000 inch thick."
I didn't think that you disagreed. The Bashlows are an interesting subject, and I'm learning more about them than I knew before, which is a good thing.
I agree, pretty neat history. I only know about the fake ones because I won one in an online auction (not ebay) and it turned out to be a fake.
you know, there is one real gold bashlow missing....... im so tempted to break out my test kit. but no way i would scratch this.