Trouble identifying Gold Commemorative Medals

Hi,

Can anyone help me identify these two Gold Commemorative Medals?

1/ Juliana en Bernhard

There's no date or currency, I'm not sure of the carat either - sorry!.
It weighs 2 gram and is 14 mm in diameter.

2/ Bat/Bar Mitzvah

Again, no date or currency, tests as high carat, hopefully 18 or above - again sorry!
It weighs 7.25 gram and is 20 mm in diameter.

Many thanks.

 

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Posting them in full size, and not thumbnail, would help.
the images are pretty small.

 

Your'e right larger would help - see attached.

 

Any edge markings? Some of the latter are seen as plated.

 

Neither medal has any marking on the side. The Bat/Bar Mitzvah was bought as part of a lot at auction marked as just tested as gold. I would have thought that when I had it tested myself (acid method), it would had shown if it was plated, but I'm not sure.

 

Can't really help too much other than the fact that the Juliana one is of the Netherlands, so if it does say a currency (which I doubt if it's a medal) it would likely be gulden.
Maybe en.numista.com can help you with identifications.